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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-17 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3056 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3056 ⌋

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Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Partly, but in your examples you're still feeling a response to those things. You're still annoyed by the itchy strap, or the whining brats.

The point of mindfulness is to experience those things, acknowledge that they're there but not let them get to you by not attributing any judgemental feeling to them whatsoever. It's the complete antithesis to depression.

Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
So you focus until you go numb? Isn't it easier to just ignore annoying stuff in the first place?

Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Don't do this man. Seriously, what do you get out of this? Pick your trolly battles.

Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't trolling on purpose. I should perhaps have phrased it more politely, but I genuinely don't get the point of this exercise. It might be me of course, but if someone could explain it in a more logical way I'd appreciate it.
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Re: sorry sorry sorry

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-18 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds to me like it comes down to "this is a good mental exercise for some people but maybe not for you".

Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
It trains you to be able to let go of shit that's bothering you so you don't obsess over it.

In case you twist that into, "oh so you shouldn't deal with your problems," no. That's not it, just like it's not learning to go numb. You can deal with your problems without dwelling on them.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You know the non-serious "Don't think about pink elephants!"
Or "Hold perfectly still" and it makes you want to move? "Don't yawn. Don't scratch your nose."

This is the opposite of that. Being anxious about having anxious thoughts makes you more anxious so you have more anxious thoughts and you have mroe reason to be afraid of them and so on. You get stuck in a feedback loop. So you try to break the feedback loop by not being frightened of your own anxiety anymore.

Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Keep it up, you'll master it eventually.

Re: sorry sorry sorry

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't focus at all, that's the whole point. You notice. You acknowledge. You don't dwell, and you don't judge.

When you have anxious, obsessive, intrusive thoughts etc., then one of the problems with them is that once you get that thought you fixate on it, drag it out and extrapolate and make everything worse. You do that because you don't just see it as a thought, you add in value judgements about yourself as a person for having the thought.

Ignoring is counterproductive, because by telling your mind not to think about something you're placing all its focus onto that thing. Even if you've never suffered from any kind of mental health issue, I'm sure there have been times when you've tried not to think about something only to then notice it, or tangential references to it, absolutely everywhere. Notice the thought, don't fuel it, and it'll drift away to be replaced by something else -- as thoughts do, naturally, when you don't have issues that disrupt that pattern -- without escalating the anxiety.

I'm sorry if that's not logical enough for you.