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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

acupuncture doesn't (really) work

hth

[(Anonymous)]

Yes it does, my cat gets it. (Truth; it helps her arthritis)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah that's what I was trying to get at with the parenthetical, because from what I understand there are as i understand it benefits to it as a massage-type thing, but that's not really what acupuncture is trying to claim

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Acupuncture doesn't involve massage. It involves having needles put in you.

[(Anonymous)]

right, i mean as a way of manipulating specific areas, it can have benefits in similar ways that massage can have benefits

but it does not actually cure illnesses by redirecting the flow of chi in your body as practicioners claim

[(Anonymous)]

If you have a foolishly reductive understanding of the meaning of the word chi, and no historical knowledge of the development of both TCM and Western medicine, I can see why you'd feel that way.

[(Anonymous)]

tell me more about your chi theories

[(Anonymous)]

lol

[feotakahari]

I did some quick digging. Apparently, there's a history of really bad studies on the subject. This meta-analysis looks pretty good, though, at least to my untrained eye: http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/Mobile/article.aspx?articleid=1357513 It concludes that acupuncture works better than sham treatments for some kinds of pain.

[(Anonymous)]

which i would argue is consistent with my claims

and i don't think you will find any evidence for the broader claims

[(Anonymous)]

"Working" for pain is a tough thing to measure, I believe, because pain by its nature is subjective. If you think you feel better, then it worked. Since the introduction of fake needles into acupuncture studies, there's been pretty good evidence that both real AND fake needles "work." There's also dry needling, which is a less spiritually-based therapy technique that is supposed to release trigger points, helping with some kinds of muscle pain. That's really different than putting a needle in a chi point in your elbow to cure your back pain.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, when I have serious neck and head pain due to muscle tension, I can take benzodiazepines or I can get dry needled. The efficacy is about the same for me, with a vast reduction in side effects for the dry needling. And that kind of pain is exactly where there are substantiated claims.

[(Anonymous)]

Someone call RSPCA!

[(Anonymous)]

It's done by a vet. I don't do it at home.

[(Anonymous)]

Same here with my elderly dog. It has helped him immensely - he could barely walk when we started and now he can get around without a harness to hold up his rear.

[(Anonymous)]

Yet it's helped me with pain relief more than the small amount of opiates I'm able to get prescribed. If that's placebo effect, I'm very happy to pay for it, as my pain is considerably reduced without damage to my liver or arguments with my doctor.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, because there's no way physical stimulation of a nerve could possibly help someone's help. Only chemical stimulation with FDA-approved(TM) drugs works. Don't even get me started on the naturally-occurring compounds; the ones made in laboratories are so far superior!