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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-29 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3068 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3068 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy]


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[Wild Kratts]


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[Harry Potter/Fleur Delacour]


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[Jennifer Barkley from Parks&Recreation]


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[Handa-kun]


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08. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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09. [WARNING for child molestation]



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10. [WARNING for mental illness/suicide]

[It's Kind of a Funny Story by Ned Vizzini]


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[personal profile] fscom 2015-05-29 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
08. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]
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[personal profile] othellia 2015-05-29 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that was the point of her character though? That the best conquerors don't always make for the best rulers, no matter how good their heart?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
This. I don't think we're meant to see her as a good ruler.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-05-30 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think we're meant to see her as young and learning. I don't necessarily think we're meant to think she'll always be a bad ruler, though, she's just young and learning and messing up a lot along the way.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-05-30 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
That's how I interpreted it, too. I mean, I come from reading the books, though, in which Dany is actually quite a bit younger, so if you just take the actions and age her up, it looks... a lot worse.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't know why anyone would think she is a good leader. Her campaign(s) were disasters! Unless she has a serious learning curve, I can't see her being a good leader in the future, either.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah she's meant to be a shitty ruler

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That's... the whole point of her character/arc though?

Or have you just missed all the implications that she's potentially turning out as crazy as her father (and all crazy Targaryans before them)? Or the fact that her youth and inexperience mean she still has the potential to learn from all her mistakes?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
all aspects of the previous culture? like slavery?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations for grasping the point of her character.

Though I can see why you might not have gotten it at first. Her tumblr fandom is hellbent on removing any trace of Dany's flaws and substituting it for 'flawless queen', which makes her boring as shit.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I get that the point of her character is to be shitty ruler.

My problem is how many people IN SHOW and WATCHING seem to think she is some awesome leader.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
In show makes sense. That's just politics, baby

Watching, I don't know. I don't know the whole fandom and I refuse to make a judgment on it. I haven't seen people who really think that tho.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of the people in show who think she has potential have, thus far, been a whole continent away from her. They've yet to see her ruling firsthand.

A lot of them also have their own motives for wanting to push her as a good ruler whether or not she is.

They're meant to think/assume/pretend she's an amazing ruler. It's called a plot device. Because these are all characters doing what the writer wants them to do to carry on the narrative.

Do you just not understand a thing you're watching, or...?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Shit. Sorry. I forgot we are not supposed to make secrets about characters because they are controlled by other people. SHIT! Sorry.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The characters in show that support Dany have no idea what it's like across the sea aside from Jorah and Barristan. No one in Season Five that resides in Meereen seems to think she's an 'awesome leader' at this point.

Her fandom is obnoxious about assuming she'd be a great leader, though. I'll give you that.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I understood your point just fine, seeing how it's literally the first two lines of the secret.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Or they think she's a better option than the other options currently on the table. Compared to Joffrey and Cersei she is an awesome leader. Sometimes it's about choosing the least bad option. And Stannis isn't seen as a good one by most of the characters.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-05-29 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, people thought Mussolini was a good leader, despite the fact that he was a clown. Politics are funny like that sometimes.

I don't know about the people watching it, though. That's probably pretty silly if people do think that.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
He made the trains run on time (or so I heard)! Sometimes, expectations are so low that that's all you need.

When it comes to Dany, I think some people are confusing "conqueror" with "leader", when they aren't necessarily interchangeable.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-05-30 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
My assumption is that people just like Dany as a character and don't really think about it too much beyond that.

Which is fine.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of distracted by the way you can see her nipple in the dress.

/anon shamelessly ogling Dany, sorry OP!

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
In the first two series I was rooting for her to rise to power, return to Westeros and claim the Iron Throne. But lately I'm looking forward to seeing everyone turn on her so she can realize her mistake.

I also think she treats her dragon-kitties badly. Yeah, lock up the two that didn't hurt anyone. That's smart.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-05-30 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, that's the point of the character. She has good intentions but ruling isn't as easy as that.