case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-30 04:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #3069 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.


__________________________________________________



13.










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 086 secrets from Secret Submission Post #439.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, that's what bothered me most, too.
sarillia: (Default)

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-05-30 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I've thought about that before too.

My favorite inaccuracy is Zeus and Hera (especially her) being doting parents to Hercules. It makes me laugh every time.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The first time I saw the movie, even as a child, it got to where Hera and Zeus were a loving couple and I stared in disbelief and starting laughing. I still laugh every time.

fishnchips: (Eh)

[personal profile] fishnchips 2015-05-30 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I always get irrationally irritated that they keep mixing up the Greek and Roman names of people/gods/etc.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That probably would have been a pain in the ass to animate, and it's easier to get a girl singing group that's about 4/5 members as opposed to 9.

Mythological inaccuracies don't bother me though, mythology itself is not consistent.
dreemyweird: (Default)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-05-30 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Mythologies are endless strings of AUs whose original canon source is lost or never existed, basically. To get something about mythology completely wrong, you'd need to first make a point of following one particular version of one particular myth. Otherwise, your interpretation is as valid as the next man's.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if the Nine Muses were a universal standard until relatively late? I know the lists of Graces varied from city to city.

Anyway, you could handwave it as it just being half of them appearing in this story.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Mythological inaccuracies don't bother me though, mythology itself is not consistent.

This is so ridiculously true. Sure, the Hercules movie isn't "accurate" but frankly, there isn't an "accurate" Graeco-Roman mythology. There just isn't. In reality, polytheism of Greek and Rome amounted to a number of state cults, mystery cults, traditions that varied from region to region and a good deal of personal culture and preference. There was no central church, no book that defined an official string of "canon" mythology. The modern understanding of classical religion is really misleading, I think, in how it suggested that there were set myths that were concrete and understood with a pantheon of gods that everyone knew and recognized and had consistent religious significance.

Ragging on this Disney movie for inaccuracies is just a bit funny, keeping actual historical perspective in mind, because it's really not much more confused than the real myths themselves.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's originally a Greek myth. Not Greco-Roman.

And nah, even the wildest Roman AUs of the myth were not as massively inaccurate to the myth of Heracles as this movie was.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Uh obviously lol but since the Romans used it too it's referred to as Greco-Roman. And the Greeks had different versions of the myth as well, not just the Romans. It isn't "au" because no single version is correct.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
How can you be "inaccurate" to a story that didn't actually happen, had tons of different versions (that we even know about), traveled not only throughout Greece and Rome but through Europe, combining and influencing other mythologies (such as the Germanic Thor being associated with Hercules), and continued to be adjusted and played with for the subsequent two thousand years?

It's not a historical story and was never meant to be, nor is it even one story.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-30 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It pleases me that this is secret #9.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
But wasn't it nice that they were ladies of color? With different body types! And that the large one was not comic relief?

(You can be upset about there not being nine, though, I get that.)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
It'd be better if they hadn't turned Hercules into a pasty readheaded blue-eyed clean-shaven boy, and had actually stuck with his ethnicity...

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hellenes can't be red-haired now?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Err, first, there was no actual Hercules, unless you're really pushing for theories of euhemerism. Second, people from that area could have a variety of hair colors and many deities were specifically noted for having, for example, golden hair. Third, Hercules is a demi-god, his dad is Zeus, pretty sure that throws any serious questions of ethnicity out the window.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-31 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
why are almost all of them doing the Veronica Lodge hand behind the hair to indicate hotness gesture?