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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-03 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3073 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3073 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Master Chef]


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[The Raven Cycle by Maggie Stiefvater]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Star Wars]


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[Frank]


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[Discworld]


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[Baccano!]


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[Cher Lloyd/Kingsman: The Secret Service]


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[Eurovision]


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[Hannah Rutherford (Yogscast)]










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Re: Do tropes mean anything?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-06-03 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Having one or two tropes in a piece of writing, especially if they serve to make an original point about the trope or they're there to be subverted in a clever way, is absolutely fine.

Writing full of tropes, however, is shorthand for lazy writing. What it means is, if your writing is full of the same shit everyone is doing in the exact same way, you might want to reconsider your basics (also, your novel probably isn't as awesome as you thought it was). It's not just about analyzing trends in writing, it's about making sure your creative endeavour is actually creative.

That said, not every single thing is a trope, guys. I'm looking at you, tvtropes.

Re: Do tropes mean anything?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-03 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Writing full of tropes, however, is shorthand for lazy writing.</>

I kind of feel like it'd make more sense to just come out and say 'cliche' here instead of 'trope'. Because I think that's really probably a more accurate name for the way the word is being used, at this point. Particularly the way that we emphasize the importance of using them to make original points and subverting them - that makes a lot more sense if we're actually talking about cliches here.

Largely agree otherwise.

Re: Do tropes mean anything?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-06-03 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but clichés are no longer cliché when they fall out of use. The same way tropes aren't tropes if they're not popular.

Paying attention to writing trends, even if they're not specifically clichés, stops you from writing the same novel or script or whatever else that everyone else and their dog is writing.
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Re: Do tropes mean anything?

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2015-06-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
No, everything is a trope. Even this conversation. That's the beauty of it. (Well, if you use "trope" to mean "motif"—which is what TVTropes does.)

Re: Do tropes mean anything?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-06-04 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's impossible to avoid because there's nothing new under the sun. I think fixating on enumerating them is likely one of the laziest forms of media analysis, somewhere between "I know what I like" and "I read metacritic."