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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-03 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3073 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3073 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Master Chef]


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[The Raven Cycle by Maggie Stiefvater]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Star Wars]


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[Frank]


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[Discworld]


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[Baccano!]


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[Cher Lloyd/Kingsman: The Secret Service]


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[Eurovision]


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[Hannah Rutherford (Yogscast)]










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(Anonymous) 2015-06-03 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, you did kind of just answer one of those with "I assume it works in such-and-such a way", which is kind of my point.

And with the economy my point is like... the whole basis of wizarding society seems like it's different and isolated enough that there's no reason to expect it to work like a muggle economy. People are poor in society because, for one reason or another, they're not able to demand enough compensation for their labor to make up for their expenses. But the whole question of expenses, ownership, production, and labor are totally different in a wizarding economy. I mean, what do wizards even DO? Again, I think it only works if you assume it just works.

And that's fine! I'm 100% fine with that, I really don't give a shit about it, and I don't think it's supposed to make sense. The Weaselys are poor because they're the poor-but-honest and friendly and awesome shabby family out in the sticks. I don't need anything more than that. He's a civil servant because he's a civil servant. That's what JKR wanted in the story, and so that's what she wrote, and that's fine. It doesn't have to make sense. But the side effect of that is that you can't try to make it sense, because it won't, so don't even bother. Just assume it works like Georgian England except with spells and it's fine.

But when you start asking questions like the ones OP asked, you do get to a point where there aren't any satisfactory answers except "that's just the way it works, because it does". So it's silly to ask those questions. And that's my view.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-06-03 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I guess we are defining "falling apart" differently then? Because to me that would mean inconsistency or things that as given in canon doesn't work. I'm fine with making assumptions because I think you have to do that with any canon, though maybe more so with Potter. What I have a problem with is when a fictional world is inconsistent within itself or if something in it wouldn't work even if you assumed things.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I guess what I mean by falling apart is that, if you go up to any part of the world of Harry Potter, and you ask "Why is it this way? How does this work? What's the deal with that?", there's just never going to be a satisfactory answer drawn from the text. And that's what I think OP is doing in asking these questions. The answer is going to be "JKR wanted the story to work that way for aesthetic reasons, just roll with it."

Which again I'm fine with.