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Re: DA
(Anonymous) 2015-06-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)Not to mention how much awfulness has been carried out in the name of Christianity over the years. Witch burnings, the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, anti-communism, Satanic hysteria, "conversion therapy", FGM, the Westboro Baptist Church...I could keep going. There's a saying about those in glass houses, you know.
You wouldn't count yourself amongst the Christians who committed those hateful acts, and continue to do so, I would hope, just like a majority of Christians these days, and you would like people to not lump you in with that violent vocal minority. Just like the majority of people who practice Islam would like you to not associate them with their violent vocal minority. ISIS is not practicing Islam. They are using Islam as an excuse to make a power-grab, and they're not actually called ISIS by the locals, because they consider associating them with Islam more respect than the group deserves.
Re: DA
(Anonymous) 2015-06-06 02:01 am (UTC)(link)I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Bible or anything like that, but iirc Jesus's death was supposed to free people from Old Testament laws. I think that's how my evangelical friend explained it, anyway.
I mentioned this before somewhere in this thread, but I really hate how people bring up atrocities committed by Christians hundreds of years ago as reasons why Christian's shouldn't criticize Islamic extremism, like every modern Christian is responsible for things that happened in the middle ages. Society has evolved, and barbaric acts like those that happened are rightfully condemned. There is no reason why we shouldn't condemn barbaric acts that occur today because adherents of another religion practice them. Also, including anti-communism in your list is a huge stretch, imo. Also, the WBC, while scummy and malicious, don't do anything but picket and generally act like bigoted dumbfucks. They haven't actually killed anyone, and to put them on the same level of the Crusades and ISIS is just...yeah.
I agree that lumping the extremists together with the normal folk is stupid, regardless of religion. I do take issue with your claim that those in ISIS are "not practicing Islam." It's the No True Scotsman argument; they certainly wield their faith as a weapon, but how can you say that their faith isn't real? For the record, I say the same thing to my Christian friends who claim that the WBC and other weird fringe groups aren't "true Christians." Who's to decide who's a "true" whatever? I agree that extremist Muslims/Christians practice a twisted, bastardized version of the faith that goes against the supposed values, but I wouldn't say they flat-out don't practice it, especially if it's what they believe in.