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⌈ Secret Post #3077 ⌋

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[Lackadaisy Cats]

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(Gorillaz)

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(Tripping over you)

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[Stitchers]

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[Dragon Age]

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[The Mighty Boosh]

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[LOVE LIVE!]

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[Brooklyn 99]

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[Mad Max Fury Road]

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[Maggie Stiefvater]

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[Emily Alice Ovenden]

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[When Marnie Was There/Omoide no Marnie]

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(Rick and Morty)

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[Suppression]

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[Wall-e]

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[Ancillary Justice & Ancillary Sword]

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The Indoctrination Theory is a bunch of people trying to reconcile the nonsensical shitshow that was ME3's ending with pretty much the entire rest of the trilogy. It has nothing to do with saving Shep - a lot of the people who subscribe to it would have been fine with the "good" ending requiring a heroic sacrifice, as long as the ending itself wasn't complete nonsense.

(And yes, ~space magic~ turning people into cyborgs is complete nonsense, that is not how DNA works, what the actual fuck.)

lol

And people can be brought back from the dead with science.

Also, to further my point: the fucking Mass Relays and biotics and all that? Wouldn't work in real life, either. My suspension of disbelief was pretty high. There's been space magic from the get-go. Mass Relays were never explained 100% just a "lol we found this and reverse engineered until we got useful shit and we think they may work like this but we're not sure because they're so fucking ancient." The fucking beacons were Space Magic and that was from the very first fucking mission of the game.

Also nevermind that Shep is basically Space Jesus and that was obvious from day 1. There's a reason they're named Shepard. It's real life nonsense, but makes sense in the game where you can somehow turn a burnt up not-even-recognizable-as-human corpse back into a living, breathing person. And not just that, the exact person who died.

Mass relays and biotics and cybernetic augmentation and weird telepathic shit were core conceits of the game from the very beginning. They functioned because the basic underpinnings of the setting said they functioned, and were built to make them function.

Genes, however, were presented throughout the entire game as...genes. If people wanted to alter them, they used retroviral tinkering or knockout factors or gene insertion. Within a reasonable degree of flex to account for a sci-fi game written by people who are not actually biologists of any stripe, DNA pretty much functioned like DNA, and was altered in a manner that could theoretically function as an extension of ways in which DNA is actually altered in actual organisms in actual labs. It didn't at any point in any of the games prior to the last 15 minutes of the third turn into computers, or even get mentioned as theoretically capable of turning into computers.

The magic green beam of cyber DNA wasn't a core conceit of the setting, wasn't in keeping with the way genetic augmentation actually worked in the entire rest of canon, and wasn't even really foreshadowed at all. It just came out of nowhere, and everyone was expected to nod along and agree because it's the ~good~ ending. Hell, the writers could have engaged either their brains or their editors for half a second and said "we're gonna alter people with nanotech, have fun now", and it would have at least been in keeping with the tech shown in-series (the husks, Shepard's resurrection), but they went with a suspension-of-disbelief-shattering space magic asspull instead.

Yes, an entire race being able to somehow have brainsex and then get pregnant with a child that is somehow the culmination of your entire ancestry's best traits and that is not bullshit space magic at all that makes perfect sense with genes being genes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis

The best traits thing is also stated to be what the asari believe, not necessarily what actually happens.

That's not how parthenogenesis works. I know about parthenogenesis, but the way the Asari works is absolutely not how it actually works. The children are not clones of the parent.

Keep trying to defend your butthurt when it's literally space magic.

But what happens with the asari is a creative extension of the way parthenogenesis works, just like the stuff anon mentioned above is a creative take on the way DNA works. Synthesis takes creative license on an existing scientific phenomenon to an absurd degree to the point where we can't even speculate on how it would work. It's just wacky. Suspension of disbelief can account for DNA tinkering a la Shepard's resurrection and Miranda's creation, and it can account for asari mindbabies, much more easily because those are not nearly as ridiculously out there as Synthesis.

Eh, I'd disagree, if only because somehow the Asaris aren't clones, show variances even in family lines, etc. Synthesis ending is a miracle and goes hand-in-hand with the obvious Jesus parallel going on with Shepard.

It's kind of like how we're supposed to believe that the Destruction ending ONLY disables synthetic LIFE and not, you know, necessary things like any prosthetics or synthetic organs imo. There's been space magic from the beginning, including biotics being space mages and the mass relays are never actually explained as anything other than ~ancient technology~.

Asari aren't clones because of the creative license taken with parthenogenesis, i.e. gene shuffling. Is it weird? Yes. Is it as weird as synthesis? Hell no.

Are you the anon I'm talking to elsewhere about the Jesus metaphor?

It's kind of like how we're supposed to believe that the Destruction ending ONLY disables synthetic LIFE and not, you know, necessary things like any prosthetics or synthetic organs imo.

Wait, we are?? I thought it was really obvious in the game that Destruction would fuck with technology that's essential to everyone including machines in peoples' bodies.

There's been space magic from the beginning, including biotics being space mages and the mass relays are never actually explained as anything other than ~ancient technology~.

Well yeah, but...what's your point exactly? And some of that stuff is explained, just not as thoroughly as it would be if they were real scientific phenomena. They have origins and explanations though, they're not just random.

All of the endings involved space magic. Synthesis was the one that had the highest level of woo, and control was likely the most realistic of a bad bunch.

But really, what did people expect from the sequel to a series where you defeat Big Bad by punching on Saren? Getting railroaded into a set of universe-changing options available through a dialogue wheel has been a staple since BGII.

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