[ SECRET POST #3078 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3078 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

In general I disagree with you, but I must admit that I've been really annoyed by certain kink memes lately due to the proliferation of overly detailed, demanding prompts. Some people write out their prompts as if filling their request is a privilege that authors should feel honored to hold. I once saw someone who refused to list their squicks, instead demanding that any potential author!anons comment with a list of their ideas for the fic, so that they could veto anything that they didn't want.

I'm not sure entitled is the right word, but there are definitely some obnoxious trends that might read that way.

[a_potato]

I once saw someone who refused to list their squicks, instead demanding that any potential author!anons comment with a list of their ideas for the fic, so that they could veto anything that they didn't want.

I have to admit, that would be a little off-putting.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I remember the Sherlock kink meme being really bad about things like that (not so much in the beginning. things were actually pretty nice when the meme was first created. things got shitty sometimes after the second season came out though). On multiple occasions, I saw people post prompts that were so damn long that they had to be continued in a second comment. At that point, it's not a prompt anymore! I also saw people get pissed off when someone wrote their prompt but did something "wrong." A lot of people in the general Sherlock fandom were entitled assholes though, so I think a lot of it comes down to the climate of individual fandoms rather than kink memes themselves

[othellia]

On multiple occasions, I saw people post prompts that were so damn long that they had to be continued in a second comment.

Holy shit. At that point you've pretty much taken the effort to write the fic yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Basically, this. I've seen an uptick in people who treat their prompts like manufacturing orders, or want someone else to do the work of filling out their outline.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have that much of a problem with overly-detailed prompts. Sometimes, especially when you're dealing with a block or need something to kickstart your writing, the more detailed the prompt the more cohesive and do-able the idea becomes. If you're left with something extremely vague, it can be easier to start second-guessing yourself (this is also true of exchange prompts).

I've never been on kinkmemes where that sort of... prompter/writer interaction (?) was encouraged. Prompters weren't engaging in a discussion with writers, they'd just leave their request and back off, coming back (hopefully) to comment if a prompt was filled. As anon above suggests, that might have more to do with the individual climate of specific fandoms, or simply the modding levels of the meme itself rather than the kinkmeme format per se. I have to admit the ones I've been involved with have been very well and tightly run. Plus, I doubt anyone demanding lists would have gotten any response from writers either. Kinkmemes make it much easier to simply ignore any stupid requests, since they aren't made directly to any one person.

I think you come pretty close to the term you're looking for with obnoxious, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

When authors are super demanding on kink memes, I write my own shit, and then say "inspired by."

[(Anonymous)]

that is really weird. like, if you're that choosy and specific, write it yourself

[(Anonymous)]

I leave really long prompts. I wasn't aware it was considered an entitled thing to do. I feel really bad about it now.

When I write for a kink meme myself, I prefer to work off a nice long, detailed prompt, and often ask the prompter even more questions before I start. I write a lot of kink meme fic. But apparently I'm enabling elitist behavior both by leaving long prompts and writing for them?

I had no idea and this is really offputting. Its such a minefield.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

FWIW there are definitely writers like you who like detailed prompts.

I think the minefield lies in the distinction between detailed and demanding.

I like knowing what elements a prompter wants in their fic. It helps focus on the story and sparks ideas. I don't like it (and will not fill a prompt) when there's a lengthy checklist of things a writer HAS to include if they're going to bother filling at all. It doesn't help that most of those demands are for extraneous things that have nothing to do with their original premise, like side-pairings, random non-sequiturs where the characters veer off the plot to do something OOC, random cameos by crossover characters etc.

If you write relatively fleshed out ideas but still leave a writer room to be creative (and don't attack them if they do take some liberties whilst remaining true to the spirit of the original idea) then there's no problem with the length. And conversely, the super demanding prompts aren't always long either.