[ SECRET POST #3079 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3079 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

01. http://i.imgur.com/7OUo32a.png

[(Anonymous)]

I do feel that way about a lot of books, but I admit it's much more difficult to do with contemporary work. I generally don't like "preaching" in stories anyway, no matter how subtle, especially if it boils down to some political issue. But classics get away with it by being old, idk.

[(Anonymous)]

I know that as long as a work is well-written and compelling, I can enjoy it. I'm not Christian but I can enjoy the Chronicles of Narnia despite how blatant the Christian elements are. Or even Lord of the Rings which has a rather moral absolutist world.

But I do agree that it's easier to overlook in older works due to values dissonance.

[(Anonymous)]

With contemporary works, you feel the need to argue with the author when they're wrong.

With older works, you don't give a shit as much, because the author's already dead, so fuck it.

[(Anonymous)]

That, and the issue itself is possibly dead. Or rather, the exact circumstances in which the author was making a point no longer exist, the world evolves.

[feotakahari]

I think a lot of it has to do with where the author focuses. Take Carl Barks*, for instance--if you read his ideas on capitalism, he's kind of awkward in a lot of the same ways Ayn Rand is kind of awkward. If you read his comics, you can see how those ideas impacted his writing, but his focus and central message isn't "unfettered capitalism is great!" so much as "being honest and keeping your promises is great!" Rand just hammers in "Rich and powerful people deserve to be rich and powerful" until I wanted to throw the book across the room.

*Some day I want to write an essay comparing Carl Barks to Karl Marx, just because they're so similarly named and disagree on almost everything.

[(Anonymous)]

I've tried o read Ayn Rand and as much as I hate her bullshit philosophy I could stomach her a lot better if she wasn't such a shitty writer.

My God.

[(Anonymous)]

Not an Objectivist but wondering how Ayn Rand is kind of awkward.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah it's a weird phrase


full of shit, sure, but awkward?

[feotakahari]

Awkward like "I can understand the logic behind what you're saying, and it's internally consistent, but you're making huge assumptions that many people's life experience can prove false, and I'm feeling a lot of secondhand embarrassment watching you broadcast those assumptions publicly where they can be read by anyone who knows you're wrong." Or less charitably, awkward like your uncle drunkenly ranting about Mexicans in a restaurant where many of the staff members are of Mexican descent.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not surprising, though, considering that one can get flamed for pointing out even minor quibbles with works one likes (let along fundamental flaws).

for whatever reason, the modern mind's vernier is set to either 0% or 100%, and allows nothing in between. Sad, really.

[bur]

But that would have to involve accepting people as complex beings with often conflicting thoughts and beliefs that make up a hypocritical whole of grey morality instead of putting them in neatly and arbitrarily labeled boxes, as well as accepting that liking or appreciating the artistry of a thing doesn't necessarily mean that a person agrees with that thing or the world views of the one that created it, or that the person who created it even holds the same views that their work exhibits.

Fuck that. Too much work.

[esteefee]

What a novel concept. You must be wacky on the pipe.

Of course, it's why I'm still a Sinatra fan so I must be on the same stuff.

I understand this

[(Anonymous)]

I love Nietzsche's writing style and like it in a "poetry" kind of way but I fucking hate his anti-theism.

Re: I understand this

[(Anonymous)]

Right? I actually like large parts of his philosophical viewpoints, but the guy had a serious hateboner for theism.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

More toxic parts of his ideology were also a major contribution to a good friend on mine going through a fairly bad depressive period (I don't know the specifics, but she REALLY doesn't like his work now)

She was an atheist looking for a philosophy to live her life by and now she'll be the first to admit she made an awful choice.

[tabaqui]

Heeee! There have been days when i've just sat and did my calls and wrote fic longhand (can't do it on the computer) because literally one in 100 calls is picking up. So, yeah -been there. It's given me great jump-starts when i've been blocked or just not in a productive headspace.

Good on you! Glad it was well received.

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom really has trouble with fiction=/=reality these days. It's depressing.

[(Anonymous)]

How I feel about Tolkien. Love some of his characters, disagree with many of his views (views that have impact on the canon).

[(Anonymous)]

Which views?

[scrubber]

yeah but. ill-omened.

did you make this secret.