[ SECRET POST #3079 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3079 ⌋

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Comments

[ex_mek82]

I'm inclined to agree. Fandom culture as a whole was starting to really shift towards a more SJ-ish (if not politically correct) mentality a while ago, though. I saw a fair bit of that "fandom unfun" mentality in the Dragon Age fandom back around 2010-ish, and it really exploded after Dragon Age 2, which coincidentally, came out roughly around the time Homestuck really started to take off in 2011-ish.

I also want to say that maybe a huge factor in the attitude shift too, was the 'Last Airbender' movie and the whitewashing casting issue surrounding that (which was around 2009/2010-ish, iirc). That whole thing brought to the forefront race-related matters in fandom and I think in turn, also brought to light a bunch of other issues in relation to representation in general, which is still ongoing to this day.

So yeah, definitely a possible case of 'correlation not implying causation' deals here.

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AYRT

Another thing that happened around the same time as Homestuck was RaceFail (also circa 2009-2010), which was probably the first time fandom as a whole took on representation issues and started realizing en masse that some things could be Problematic. It wouldn't surprise me that the groups either drawn to/'awoken' by that would then have gravitated to the Next Huge Fandom That Potentially Dealt With Issues, which would have been Homestuck.

I didn't see the whole "fandom unfun" thing seeping into my fandoms until later on though, probably not until about 2012-13, and even then it wasn't really representation-related.

[othellia]

Yep. You had racebending in 2009 and then also the presence of ontd_political and sf_drama. There was definitely a shift of "more extremeness" that took off a bit later, but I'd still peg it around the 2010/early 2011 timeframe, and Homestuck was only starting to really take off around then.

If anything the timeframe works better to argue SJW -> Homestuck instead of the other way around.