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[Dead Poets Society]

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[Dead Poets Society]

I just really resent there being two inspirational teacher narratives:

1. Teacher goes into rich school, teaches kids to think for themselves.
2. Teacher goes into poor school, teaches kids how to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Either way, teacher gets sacrificed to The System at the end of the movie. Because no one likes a real teacher (we tend to do equal parts inspiring and pushing noses to grindstones), just fictional martyrs.

THANK YOU for saying this.

being a teacher is so much more than the hammy inspirational stuff.

Pretty much, yep.

Seriously.

All teachers with an ideology, and everyone who wants people "to think for themselves" does that.

People have to figure out for themselves which teachers and other people they will believe...

I'm not sure I would say that the film's message was about that. Keating was trying to teach them to be rebels, and thus rip up the conformist literature. But the film's ending has the boys realizing that to be themselves in the real world is a mixture of rebel and conforming.

So much!

Actually this goes for more of Robin Williams' stuff. He seems at first glance like a human teddy bear, but he's more like a wolf in sheep's clothing.

His messed up dramas were always so much better than his comedies, for me.

DA

Like One Hour Photo?

I love how that film is like a deconstruction of most of his 'wacky characters who just want to be loved.'

Never watched this movie. That does sound a bit creepy though. :(

This secret is a total misrepresentation of the movie. Don't worry.

I much prefer The Emperor's Club, which is a similar movie starring Kevin Klein, but with a much better message, one involving character.

This movie is so damn overrated.

Eh, I enjoyed it but also watched it in high school English class so I didn't have a choice anyway. I thought he was good in the role but also didn't take the film that seriously.

(Another reason I liked the film: the slash potential. Went home and looked for fanfic because I'm terrible.)

I really think this is the reason I always enjoy movies set at boys schools, like Another Country, School Ties and The History Boys.

Check out A Separate Peace as well, set at St. Paul's (never seen the movie but it's based on a well-known book).

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elaminator - 2015-06-11 22:14 (UTC) - Expand

tbh I didn't really think (and still have no real opinion) about the message of the film, because I watched and enjoyed it for the teenage boy interactions and neil perry being adorable
/shallow

But it wasn't really about ripping up the book, or that author. He's trying to get them to break away from a stifled traditional system of teaching English. I mean, that's the point of the film. I'm not saying it's the best film, or that it isn't overrated, but you are deliberately mischaracterizing the film, and what is going on in that scene.

For real! The Pritchard scale tried to critique poetry by quantifying it! So, so missing the point. I think I read somewhere that that's actually based on a typical '50s curriculum and I was horrified.

Love love love this movie. That last scene still brings me to tears. All those brave young men standing up, risking expulsion--and that last shot as Keating sees how much they've grown. Just lovely.

No, the thing that annoyed me most about the movie was the whole damn concept of that teacher somehow making all these boys absolutely gaga for poetry.

Sorry, but have the people who made this film ever met any actual teenage boys? Of course there are going to be a few teenage boys who love and appreciate poetry and literature, but those are the rare exception. The other 99,9% of them certaintly don't sneak away and hide in a cave (or whatever it was) to read poetry to each other. That scene made me roll my eyes so hard. My suspension of disbelief couldn't take it. And that is saying something, because I'm very good at suspending my disbelief usually.

I dunno, when you build a secret club around something, and intertwine that something with social interaction and rebellion against authority and all that jazz, I can find it believable that teenage boys who aren't usually into something would get into it anyway.

But I was in a poetry club in high school that was at least half boys, so maybe I'm biased towards the idea.

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Hahaha. But yes, seriously.

It was only one group in the class that was really into it. Quite a few of them didn't even stand up at the end.

I think there is some ambivalence about him in the film; I suppose the point is not that everyone should be like him but that there should be room for people like that. The society of the school only allows room for one sort of person and that's what leads to tragedy.