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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-10 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3080 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3080 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dead Poets Society]


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[Tobey Macguire]


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[Billy Connolly]


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(Marvel Cinematic Universe/Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.l.D.)


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[Love Live]


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[Life is Strange]


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(Hysterical Literature/Walt Whitman)


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cloud_riven: Stick-man styled Apollo Justice wearing a Santa hat, and also holding a giant candy cane staff. (Default)

Re: You're an asshole and probably a bigot, but:

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-06-11 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'd ask why you're picking out AFAB in particular, but I can totally understand why since there is a prevalence of it on tumblr, along with self-diagnosing, and misconstruing gendered interests and dress as gender itself. Admittedly, I also assume a lot of them are "transtrenders", but, like you said, it's not my place to police folk feeling themselves out.

I honestly don't really like discussing most anything about genderqueer unless it's irl, because online it is such a hugboxy mess or an instant draw for invalidating criticism from folk thinking anything not specifically in a short acronym is coat-tailing on them.
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Re: You're an asshole and probably a bigot, but:

[personal profile] chardmonster 2015-06-11 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm picking out AFAB because that's where I'm seeing this phenomenon--I'm not seeing AMAB folks not expressing some measure of androgyny/dysphoria etc. That might be because the genderqueer community appears to be overwhelmingly AFAB so the AMAB folks are invisible.

I don't like calling people "transtrenders" because of course a bunch of teenagers on Tumblr are going to look like that. Also because attitudes like that kept me from coming out as Bi when I was younger and avoiding a lot of pain/bad choices (I can't tell people I'm Bi, everyone will think I'm a slut who just makes out with girls at parties to turn on guys! Better date guys exclusively while being anxious about ever looking unstraight lest a gay person call me a poser)
Edited 2015-06-11 02:48 (UTC)
cloud_riven: Stick-man styled Apollo Justice wearing a Santa hat, and also holding a giant candy cane staff. (Default)

Re: You're an asshole and probably a bigot, but:

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-06-11 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ime it does seem like there are more AFAB than AMAB who identify as such. Maybe it depends on region, because I'm seeing genderqueer as part of those identities that while seemingly everywhere online, is less abundant with openly out individuals you meet in person. At least in Edmonton, the vocal portion of the community is mixed. Post-and-pre-op, AFAB and AMAB from various age groups, and ofc folk who discovered the term through the tumblr blogosphere. I can't be completely certain of that majority, though even if I was I never felt that it was overly composed of either.

That is all anecdata for sure, and I could probably see it skewed in another direction if I were to focus on specific areas (like university communities). Yet it's also why I'm cautious of conclusions drawn about queer labels and the people who use them by looking at tumblr or any other popular platform. For me at least, that's a quick way to become cynical and pick up dick habits and terms like "transtrenders" that just basically amounts to an excuse to pick on kids (adults too, but lbr it's targeting kids).

LGBT* has, you're already aware of, tons of division and prejudices against each other once you see past the umbrella term. And anything not fitting perfectly into only a single convenient slot (genderqueer, bisexuality, off spectrum, etc.) is apparently excuse enough to further other. And it's stupid. Yay! Pride but only for those meet the requirements for suspension of disbelief (like fucking X amount of women to be seriously bi, or else you're a faker) YAY