[ SECRET POST #3084 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3084 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Sense8]


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[Lawrence of Arabia]


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04.
[Mos Def (Ford Prefect in the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy movie), and Peter Capaldi (the Twelfth Doctor)]


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05.
[Orphan Black]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[Super Sonico]


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08.
[Shuriken Sentai Ninninger]


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09.
[Alesha Dixon (Britain's Got Talent) and Van Ness Wu (Asia's Got Talent)]


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10.
[Valiant Hearts]


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11.
[The Lorax (book)]


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12.
[Outerlander vs. Twilight]


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13.
[Wrestling]


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14.
[Life Is Strange, RWBY, Regular Show, New Girl]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 075 secrets from Secret Submission Post #441.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/qPAtAr7.png
[Lawrence of Arabia]

Transcript by OP

[fscom]

Lawrence of Arabia is my dad's favorite movie. I recently saw it for the first time and loved it too for its beautiful cinematography, the performance, the score, the themes and history and because I realized...

IT'S A MOTHERFUCKING SLASH FIC. I'M STILL LAUGHING

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I mean, yeah

TE Lawrence was gay as hell

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Oh I know! But the tropes! And the fanfiction cliches! Holy shit, minus the tragic ending, it hits basically every single one! And this is considered one of the greatest films of all time!

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I think what kills me about this especially is that people so often treat slash fic as though it's literary garbage. But if you break down the story of Lawrence of Arabia (particularly his relationship with Ali) that's basically what it is.

Two men
One that's "lighter" and one that's "darker" -- (The way they're dressed REALLY reinforces this point).
From different worlds
They initially don't like each other
But outsider earns their admiration through his bravery and sacrifice and through innovation and more out-of-the-box thinking
And (oh man do I feel kind of guilty posting this but) -- Holy Christ the rape scene -- I was so not expecting that
And then they do the hurt/comfort, with Ali taking care of and feeding Lawrence
And Ali is Lawrence's most trusted person in the Arab world while Ali is utterly devoted to Lawrence (despite thinking that he's rather crazy) and being scared for him
Just...Urgh...it's slash fic central

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

More like, slash fiction is inspired first foremost by deep friendships between men and that kind of dynamic is nothing new (*). You can find so many duos like that that share similar patters and, basically, for nowadays 'standards' some old things are retroactively hq slash.

(*)of course, the insistent myopic focus on male friendships only had always been a cultural thing too: they told stories about men because men are considered important and only male relationships could be meaningful even though they were platonic. Where you see slash, others will just see the patriarchy in action.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Umm...you do know that when David Lean (the director) was asked if it was a homosexual film, he said:

"Yes. Of course it is. Throughout. Lawrence was very, if not entirely, homosexual. We thought we were being very daring at the time: Lawrence and Omar, Lawrence and the Arab boys."

I'm not really what your issue is here. It's not a focus on male friendships. But the film was released in 1962 so they couldn't exactly make things explicit.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

No, you know what's patriarchy:

-When a man depicts such a story, it's celebrated as a wonderful epic and stupendously written

-When women write it, they're "horny, perverted" fangirls writing slop

That's misogynistic.

The story itself isn't. (Especially in this case given that TE Lawrence was, in fact, not heterosexual.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's actually weirder than that. There's strong evidence that a large section of Lawrence's autobiography, the one the movie was partly based on, was quite literally SELF-INSERT BDSM RAPEFIC. The whole sequence where he's captured by the Turks and caned and raped and so on and so forth? Most scholars are coming round to the belief that that never really happened, he just put it in because it was a longstanding fantasy of his. Not even joking.

[(Anonymous)]

hey, some straight dudes really love slash fics for that reason

[(Anonymous)]

I just think it's funny how my dad doesn't see it. AT ALL. It blows my mind a little.

It's good to know that some straight dudes see it and enjoy it too, though!

[melissatreglia]

Or maybe he sees it, but isn't willing to admit it to his kid. :P

[eve_n_furter]

Thanks for reminding me, I have to see if there's any new LoA fic on AO3. (And preferably not only heartbreaking ones. Will take the Mummy fic as compensation if no-one is to be found.)

[(Anonymous)]

If you have any, I want RECS.

I've been looking for one called "The Trick Is" but I can't find it ANYWHERE and it's enormously frustrating.

I did find one by one of my favorite authors (astolat) here:http://archiveofourown.org/works/643507

The 1992 sequel starring Ralph Fiennes is also quite good and you can watch it all on youtube for free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a729KpqD5oI

A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia

[eve_n_furter]

Here's "The Trick Is": http://vashtan.weebly.com/ (But it's on of the heartbreaking ones. Vail!)

And just somewhat related, hetslash and short, but good: http://archiveofourown.org/works/234931 "Black and White, Still" Peter O'Toole/Leni Riefenstahl.

I'll definitely check out Astolat's version and would like more recs myself. :)

Slightly off topic ...

[(Anonymous)]

... but good god Omar Sharif was beautiful in this movie. I saw it first because my mother wanted to show me her crush (and because my dad likes it as well, but he wasn't as quick off the mark), and I did have to agree with her. Man was truly beautiful.

Re: Slightly off topic ...

[(Anonymous)]

OH MY GOD I KNOW

I'm planning on watching Doctor Zhivago next just because it stars him (and is also directed by David Lean).

Is it sad that I can't think of any Arab actors as prominent as him nowadays?

To say nothing of Arab women...

Re: Slightly off topic ...

[eve_n_furter]

Jesssss. Hrrrr, yum on yum! Sharif also managed to look delectable throughout his entire career. And that's saying something.

Re: Slightly off topic ...

[(Anonymous)]

He was so handsome. Still handsome now, I suppose! I watched most of Funny Girl on tv once just so I could gaze at him. (Apparently, he nearly lost his Egyptian citizenship over kissing Barbra Streisand in that movie.)

Re: Slightly off topic ...

[kaffy_r]

He is absolutely gorgeous (even my BB, who insists on calling him "Old Cow Eyes" acknowledges that he's gorgeous.) So is O'Toole - having the two kinds of breathtaking beauty on one screen, backed up by intensely good acting is, well, breath-taking.

Yup

[iceyred]

If memory serves, the book was also slashy.

[elcort]

(throwing confetti) Welcome to T.E. hell!

[(Anonymous)]

Yay! Do you have any fanfic recs, by any chance?

;)

[alexi_lupin]

I watched thew start of it but found it pretty slow and stopped. You've inspired me to give it another go, OP.

[litalex]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw the slash potential.