[ SECRET POST #3084 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3084 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Sense8]


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03.
[Lawrence of Arabia]


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04.
[Mos Def (Ford Prefect in the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy movie), and Peter Capaldi (the Twelfth Doctor)]


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05.
[Orphan Black]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[Super Sonico]


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08.
[Shuriken Sentai Ninninger]


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09.
[Alesha Dixon (Britain's Got Talent) and Van Ness Wu (Asia's Got Talent)]


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10.
[Valiant Hearts]


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11.
[The Lorax (book)]


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12.
[Outerlander vs. Twilight]


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13.
[Wrestling]


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14.
[Life Is Strange, RWBY, Regular Show, New Girl]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 075 secrets from Secret Submission Post #441.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I think what kills me about this especially is that people so often treat slash fic as though it's literary garbage. But if you break down the story of Lawrence of Arabia (particularly his relationship with Ali) that's basically what it is.

Two men
One that's "lighter" and one that's "darker" -- (The way they're dressed REALLY reinforces this point).
From different worlds
They initially don't like each other
But outsider earns their admiration through his bravery and sacrifice and through innovation and more out-of-the-box thinking
And (oh man do I feel kind of guilty posting this but) -- Holy Christ the rape scene -- I was so not expecting that
And then they do the hurt/comfort, with Ali taking care of and feeding Lawrence
And Ali is Lawrence's most trusted person in the Arab world while Ali is utterly devoted to Lawrence (despite thinking that he's rather crazy) and being scared for him
Just...Urgh...it's slash fic central

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

More like, slash fiction is inspired first foremost by deep friendships between men and that kind of dynamic is nothing new (*). You can find so many duos like that that share similar patters and, basically, for nowadays 'standards' some old things are retroactively hq slash.

(*)of course, the insistent myopic focus on male friendships only had always been a cultural thing too: they told stories about men because men are considered important and only male relationships could be meaningful even though they were platonic. Where you see slash, others will just see the patriarchy in action.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Umm...you do know that when David Lean (the director) was asked if it was a homosexual film, he said:

"Yes. Of course it is. Throughout. Lawrence was very, if not entirely, homosexual. We thought we were being very daring at the time: Lawrence and Omar, Lawrence and the Arab boys."

I'm not really what your issue is here. It's not a focus on male friendships. But the film was released in 1962 so they couldn't exactly make things explicit.

Re: OP

[elialshadowpine]

... I did not know that. It's been on my Very Fucking Long List of Things To Someday Watch. I may have to bump it up.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

No, you know what's patriarchy:

-When a man depicts such a story, it's celebrated as a wonderful epic and stupendously written

-When women write it, they're "horny, perverted" fangirls writing slop

That's misogynistic.

The story itself isn't. (Especially in this case given that TE Lawrence was, in fact, not heterosexual.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Very well put.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's actually weirder than that. There's strong evidence that a large section of Lawrence's autobiography, the one the movie was partly based on, was quite literally SELF-INSERT BDSM RAPEFIC. The whole sequence where he's captured by the Turks and caned and raped and so on and so forth? Most scholars are coming round to the belief that that never really happened, he just put it in because it was a longstanding fantasy of his. Not even joking.