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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-15 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3085 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-06-15 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hiya, canon shipper here.

Let's break it down based on my experience (which doesn't necessarily speak for everyone).

The canon shippers I know generally write fic mostly because they want to explore the universe as established in canon. So to them, shipping might only be a small part of it in the first place. It's how they can explore those canon relationships and dynamics, including the romantic ones. Even if it is a large part, the need to explore canon is why. Whereas I think non-canon shippers still very much want to play with the world, but they also want to write an alternative take.

What I will say is that it's also been my experience that canon shippers may be more prone to leave fandom once the canon is closed, with non-canon shippers staying behind.

Again, just what I've seen. Perhaps someone has a different perspective.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-15 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a pretty good explanation. Of course, it's not true for everyone but I imagine it does reflect the experience of quite a few canon shippers. I guess the only thing I would add is that I don't know that I would agree that non-canon shippers necessarily want to write an alternative take. A lot of fic I've seen focuses on making the non-canon pairing canon-complaint, which might take a little extra writing depending on the characters they ship (if they're already very close in canon, it's generally much easier to get them together).

But I've seen a lot of excellent writers deal with break-ups and then getting their pair to become closer.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-15 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT -

A lot of fic I've seen focuses on making the non-canon pairing canon-complaint, which might take a little extra writing depending on the characters they ship (if they're already very close in canon, it's generally much easier to get them together).

True enough. But there's also a lot of pairings that, to be blunt, really aren't canon compliant, though maybe that's when the trying to make it compliant comes in.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-16 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
But I've seen a lot of excellent writers deal with break-ups and then getting their pair to become closer.

You're lucky then, because I've seen the exact opposite. Very bad writers who come up with the most contrived ooc excuses to bash the one half of the canon pairing they want to push out of the way, just to get their chosen non-canon pair together. And isn't it curious that every time, it's been a het fic that's getting broken up with the female inexplicably made to look like a callous bitch/golddigger/two-timing slut/whatever to get the male together with another male character, when both males are barely even acquaintances and certainly not friends? This kind of crap has turned me off to slash altogether. It's not the ship, it's the shippers.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2015-06-16 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I ship a lot of canon but for me it's more about getting more invested in the first place because canon events support the idea. I have some of that desire to keep things neatly canon-compliant but that goes out the window if an AU idea feels believable enough.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-06-16 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm very much an "explore canon" type of person - I don't like AUs much, definitely prefer to stay within canonverse, and if I AU I try to make it very strongly linked to canon. Thing is, I don't always like the canon ship. Just because it's canon doesn't mean the author managed to sell me on it, or even that it's the most interesting ship. (for example, in the Farseer books, I ship Fitz with basically... everybody but Molly. That pairing just annoyed me. it made sense what happened to them, but I did not enjoy it much)

I have also encountered many canon shippers who are extremely rabid, or very very focused on the shipping aspects and not just as 'part of the canon'.

So that's my different perspective. (I'm not saying that what you're describing isn't accurate as well! Just giving a second opinion)