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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-15 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3085 ]


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Re: Tolkien

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-06-16 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I think the interesting thing with Sauron is that in the Silmarillion, he has it much more together than he does in LOTR. It is all part of Tolkien's ideas about evil corrupting. He starts out as being pretty attractive, and in the Silmarillion he's kind of the brains of the operation. He plans in order to accomplish what Morgoth desires. And he's quite good at seducing people into getting what he wants. Until after Numenor. Then things start to fall apart for him and more and more he becomes his master in terms of not being able to accomplish his goals because he's short-sighted and acts with less thought.

And Luthien is badass. She kicks Sauron's ass and then manages to knock out Morgoth. She's probably my second favorite Tolkien character.

I wish we had more on Celebrimbor's time in Nargathrond too. Really, anything more about his character. There is so little and I find him so fascinating. He's so very Feanorian and yet so very different from his father and grandfather and uncles.

But I find his time in Eregion and his end the most fascinating because I have a thing for tragedy. Every time you read a fic, you know what is coming and yet Celebrimbor can't see it until it is too late, though he does manage to redeem himself in the end. And I think it is all the more tragic because he really was fooled. He wasn't purposefully trying to help Sauron or do anything besides help his people. He wasn't his grandfather or his father and uncles. And yet he had some of the same faults and Sauron knew exactly how to use them to his advantage.

Re: Tolkien

(Anonymous) 2015-06-16 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a big fan of tragedy. In the Second Age, I like to focus on Celebrimbor's friendship (or epic love, as you like) to Narvi. I am also intrigued by the logistics of Eregion - about the other craftsmen and Celebrimbor's relationship with them. And all the other things they created.

I do think the most compelling part of his story with Sauron is the way he withheld the location of the three rings, and how horrible it was for Sauron to use his body as a banner. It was heroic but terrible and awful to think about. If I ever wrote a story about this time, I would have to continue the story into Valinor where Celebrimbor was reborn and given the opportunity to make amends and meet up with his old friends and family - something deserving of his sacrifice.