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I'm looking for recs for power metal (or similar) groups similar to Blind Guardian. I just discovered them after discovering that a bunch of their music was inspired by Tolkien. And I love it. So recs anything with a similar sound would be awesome.

I don't know all the nuances in music, so I am going by what I think sounds like the Blind Guardian song I just listened to.

With that in mind, Sabaton. Not only are the metal (of some type), they sing songs about history (mostly about various battles and such).

Oooo. That sounds awesome. I will check them out.

Iron Maiden is a good place to start. It's technically NWOBHM (look it up) but a lot of power metal draws from them, and IMO they don't have a single bad album.

Gamma Ray cranks up the cheese and they're fun to listen to if you're the type who doesn't take this shit seriously.

Iced Earth tends to change styles fairly often but they never really deviate from a core Maiden-style vibe. You can't go wrong with any of their albums up to The Glorious Burden -- their later stuff is crap and should be avoided. (And even The Glorious Burden is very flawed.)

Iron Savior is basically the sci-fi to Blind Guardian's fantasy, it's pretty decent.

Sonata Arctica is very popular, give them a try.

You may also want to try Symphony X, which combines power metal with progressive metal. I have a friend who will not shut the fuck up about them.

It's a little darker and more technical, but I was a big Nevermore fan once upon a time. Worth giving them a try -- I especially recommend Dreaming Neon Black.

Thanks for the recs. This is awesome. Lots of stuff to try.

Yeah, I used to listen to a bunch of stuff back in the day. :)

Now I barely listen to it at all. I think the only "traditional" metal bands I ever took with me when I gave up on the genre entirely have been Darkthrone, Bolt Thrower, and Ulver.

The best thing to happen to metal was post rock's growing influence and the proof is in how much metal fans try to ignore it.

Maybe I'll get sick of it after a while. I just like the combination of metal and orchestral. I've always liked the more well known stuff like Nightwish and Epica, but I've never really tried any of the other stuff until now.

I am interested in your thoughts on metal and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Why did you give up on the metal genre?
How has the influence of post-rock become apparent? (I love that genre, btw, would be interesting to see how it's affected metal.)
Why do you think metal fans hate the influence of post-rock?

(+1 for Ulver!)

Ooh, questions!

I gave up on metal because I realized how there was so much of it, yet it had all started to sound the same. I was also getting really sick of the scene -- antagonistic, elitist, obsessed with staying "tr00" (read: not becoming financially successful or experimenting with one's sound) and a seriously lacking and outdated fashion sense. (There's other colors than black, guys, and you can lose the wallet chain nobody's gonna steal your bus pass.) When Opeth's Watershed came out it really, really pissed me off, because by that point I was entirely sick of the scene's obsession with slick but utterly soulless (and worst of all boring) prog metal like Pain of Salvation and Porcupine Tree and Watershed sounded exactly like that nonsense. I was so annoyed with one of my favorite bands going down what in retrospect was the logical conclusion of the career path they were taking that at the time I was exploring other forms of music and kind of ejected myself from traditional metal entirely for a couple years. By the time I came back I was like "is this crap really this samey and boring across the board or have I just been gone too long?"

Post-rock's influence is apparent in bands like Isis, Pelican, Cult of Luna, Rosetta, Jesu, Neurosis and even Tool. It's the best thing to happen to metal, because it's finally some fucking new blood. It's finally some new fucking sound and not just the same low-E chuggery over and over. It's not as outright ridiculous and juvenile as a lot of metal, and isn't afraid to play with conventions of both post-rock and metal. You could argue that it suffers from the sameyness that plagues traditional metal, but that's true of any genre and post-metal's scene is far more varied and accepting of different sounds, whereas you could play me 100 death metal albums and I'd be able to tell maybe 5 of them apart (and they'd all be by Chuck Schuldiner!) because that's what the fans apparently want.

Unfortunately fans of more traditional metal -- everything from Iron Maiden to, I dunno, Dimmu Borgir -- simply prefer to pretend these bands don't exist, or if they do acknowledge them and their fans they deride it as pretentious wankery while simultaneously worshipping Mike Portnoy and jerking themselves into a stomachache over Dream Theater. I've never seen a modern music scene more stagnant and opposed to change since classical and punk.

I'm not entirely sure if it's what you're looking for but one of my favorite metal bands is Angra. Nova Era was the first song of theirs I heard that got me into them.

Thanks! I will check them out.

This is more prog, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iMMoGuUxks

That's cool. It is somewhat less orchestral than what I've been specifically looking for, but I really like it.

Do you like Nightwish? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82paQbF0Yo
(Though I prefer this version because it's hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGQiGEYl4Y )

Or also a little bit off, but Apocalyptica! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxQ_VPL6OM

I love Nightwish. I already have all their albums. And I think I've heard some Apocalyptica!, but not that one. I love that. Thanks.

Northern Kings

Rammstein

Rhapsody (dawn of victory)

Avantasia - maybe

You're looking for more orchestral?

Kamelot
Falconer
Lost Horizon
Freedom Call
Hammerfall
Human Fortress
Within Temptation
(Ambeon - metal/darkwave concept album)
(Avantasia - metal opera)
Leaves' Eyes
Visions of Atlantis
Xandria
Dream Evil
After Forever
Dragonforce (less operatic, more power metal)
Brave (harder to find, but beautiful)

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