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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-17 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3087 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3087 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Philomena Cunk and Barry Shitpeas from Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe/Weekly Wipe]


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(Tokyo Ghoul)


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[Legion]


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[Cat Nine]


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[Pokemon (main game series)]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Sense8]


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[Harriet the Spy]


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[Seamus and Juliana Dever]


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[Spec Ops: The Line]


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[Bioshock]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #441.
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-17 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish it worked this well. If only people could just see conversation as an exchange of information, a way for both (or all) people involved to learn and figure things out, rather than a battle to be won by any means necessary! It would be great to simply be able to say you aren't sure about something and get an answer or at least a calm, non-mocking response, but instead people only see surrender and you "lose" the conversation. You might get an answer, but at the cost of being "beaten," so the other person will make fun of you, or answer in a rude gloating way, or really aggressively. Or they won't even give you an answer, they'll just gloat about how wrong you are, and not answer your question because they want you to STAY wrong. Because the point isn't to impart information, it's to be "right" and to humiliate the other person for being wrong. To yell them into silence, verbally rip them into little shreds, "defeat" them and then verbally abuse them, to see them humiliated, to force them to show emotion, which for some reason is a victory in itself, even though showing emotion doesn't necessarily make a person wrong. The end goal is to see you humiliated and crying, and repeatedly kick you while you sneak off with your tail between your legs, and then to know that they are RIGHT and they WON and you deserve every bit of humiliation and more.

And people wonder why I don't talk much. And they get angry and try to shame when I won't let them bully me into having conversations and answering questions. Like I'm stupid enough to walk unarmed and alone into a ring full of armed men eager to smash me into bloody mush. Not that it matters, half the time they just chase me down and yell at me and mock and humiliate me anyway, and tell me I'm obviously wrong, stupid, and cowardly for trying not to engage. Because refusing to fight back doesn't mean the person trying to pick a fight won't just beat the crap out of you anyway.

I hate people.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-17 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
... I think maybe you're hanging out with the wrong people, anon.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-17 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man I agree so much with this.

Especially on the internet. It's like every damn conversation is a battle or a fight with some people. Maybe I just want to discuss stuff without it turning into a pissing contest?

But I also agree with anon above me - if people IRL are bullying you and shaming you for not having conversations - ditch their asses. WTF, life is not an interrogation. You do not deserve to be interrogated. Fuck that.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
First of all, having to deal with people like that is horrible. They are bullies. They do not help anyone learn. Worse, they can stop people from learning. They only care about their own egos.

I know some people who only care about being right, who shout others into submission and move the goalposts when they refuse to concede. Almost every conversation is just an excuse for them to feel high and mighty. And it's not just your or my social circle, the world is certainly full of them.

The fact that my response to these people is not to challenge them shouldn't be the case. I shouldn't have to choose between a) getting humiliated and having someone (sometimes an influential someone) known to be hostile form a grudge against me over things irrelevant to the context of our relationship and b) letting a bully wank over their perceived superiority. And maybe I am a coward for choosing that, despite that I'd probably be a stuttering mess and might just enable the bully. Maybe I'll grow a backbone, a little at a time.

The situations I had in mind while making this were non-hostile conversations. I sometimes bullshit my way through things instead of admitting my real thoughts, or that I'm not informed enough. It was meant to be about a bad habit I want to stop, not the countless people unlucky enough to be in the vicinity of those blowhards.

With what little capacity as I have as an anon on the internet, I hope you'll have the chance to move away from those bullies. You seem to have it really bad. No one should be made to feel this way.