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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-18 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3088 ]


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[personal profile] raisedbymoogles 2015-06-19 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
The problem isn't "this comedian told a joke about a sensitive subject! SHAME." or "young people are RUINING OUR CAREERS by being so easily offended!" Lots of comedians tell jokes about sensitive subjects and get masses of fans for it. Because they're actually funny.

"Tired old stereotype about this gender/ethnic group/religion/whatever I'm not a part of, amirite? Wink wink! I'm such a bad boy!" isn't funny. It's annoying and boring and stupid. It heaps insult on top of people suffering from injury. It's not courageous either - it's not speaking truth to power, it's sucking up to power, which is even more annoying.

Go learn from comedians who are actually doing funny routines about sensitive subjects, or resign yourself to playing to roomfuls of aging, fearful white males for the rest of your career.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, and your comment reminded me of this article I read 2 years ago: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/04/where-are-all-right-wing-stand-ups

I don't believe it's about avoiding sensitive issues in comedy, period. The issue is when jokes strengthen horrible trends. Subversions, pointing out absurdity, hypocrisy and how deep all of us are in shit, humor that ultimately says these things shouldn't be the norm, that's what I find funny.
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[personal profile] raisedbymoogles 2015-06-19 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. Subversive comedy is a huge force for good. One of the best ways to respond to the unequal power structures in our society is to mock it ruthlessly, and that's something humans have been doing pretty much since the invention of language. And it's really funny.

Comedy that supports the status quo is like someone kicking a dog in front of you and expecting you to laugh when it yelps.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. It's hilaaaarious that some people seem to think that self-censoring in comedy is the death of comedy. I suspect these people don't actually watch many stand up comedians. There are successful working comedians today who make plenty of jokes about touchy subjects and they have no problem getting audiences. Seinfeld's bitching about not wanting to play colleges is smokescreen. Probably because he can't draw a college crowd and he thinks it's about his non-PCness rather than being a comedian with tired material that doesn't appeal to people of the next generation.