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Ron/Hermione. Any pairing that revolves around bickering that makes the characters miserable. It works with Han and Leia because they actually seem to enjoy bickering and they stop once they admit their feelings. But most of the time I just don't get why the characters would want to be together when they make themselves so miserable.

Snape/any Gryffindor. Who wants to date their bully? Actually the same goes for Draco/Gryffindor.

Feanor/Fingolfin. This is actually a thing in the fandom. And nope. Not only are they brothers but they hate each other.

Buffy/Giles. They see each other as father an daughter.

Snape/any Gryffindor. Who wants to date their bully?

For Snape and the younger generation, definitely agreed, though in my case as much for the major power imbalance as for the bullying. For Snape and his generation, though, I admit I did kind of ship him a bit with a couple of his Gryffindor bullies. Sirius and Remus, mostly, and more in a hatesex/war comrades/battered-bitter-old-men-who-accidentally-find-peace sort of way.

Not really any more plausible, in all likelihood they probably really would have sooner killed each other regardless of circumstances (almost certainly in Sirius' case), but the darkfic was excellent.

I don't even know how to explain why I ship Snape/Harry. I think it is all due to fandom, especially the works that came out of the Three Year Summer, where Snape is softened, misunderstood and vulnerable and Harry is aged up and able to snark back as good as he gets.

Draco/Harry is a little different in that it ties more readily into the enemies to friends to lovers dynamic, and that is a very appealing dynamic to write and read.

I guess I've never seen Draco in the "enemy" category. In my mind he's in the "bully" category. I can actually more easily understand enemy shipping than I can shipping a bully with his victim.

Draco is a bully, for sure, but the power imbalance isn't so bad as Harry or others get him back quite often. So, I guess I see them more as trading jabs than Draco completely humiliating Harry as a bully might.

I could never see it just as "trading jabs' considering what Draco said about Harry's friends. In my mind, I could see Harry forgiving Draco and falling for him maybe if it were just what Draco said about him, but what he said about Ron, Hermione, and Neville was unforgivable in my mind.

The power imbalance is actually another reason I can't ship. I generally like pairings where the characters are on equal footing (with a few specific exceptions where part of the fun of the pairing is the power imbalance).

I honestly don't think Ron and Hermione truly fought during most of their friendship. They had that one period of time when they weren't speaking but then so did Harry and Ron, and that felt very similar to me. (I can agree with the part where Ron left during book 7, that was upsetting and I thought a very extreme reaction even for Ron. But I think, again, it wasn't really about Ron and Hermione because that ultimately hurt Harry even more, since Harry was depending on his friends.)

There was a lot of lighthearted bickering but maybe we just interpreted their fighting different ways?

I never saw it as lightweight because a lot of the stuff they said was really personal. Particularly Ron in relation to Hermione's studious nature. And they always seemed miserable after their fights or bickering. They didn't seem to actually enjoy doing it, it more seemed to me to come from being too different rather than from the sexual tension that I think the author meant it to be. And then there was the bird attack which in my mind was totally physical abuse.

I guess maybe I just didn't get a lot of the humor in the books? I think we were supposed to find the bird attack funny (as we were with Ginny attacking Zacharias in the stands), and it never came across that way to me.

I think the bird attack fell into the same category as a lot of other things - like the tongue-growing prank candy and Peeves setting things on fire - that were supposed to be humorous and you kind of had to accept comic humor as a premise even though that doesn't work as well in a not-cartoon setting. There are debates as to how effective that is. (I have mixed feelings.)

I thought the bird attack was dumb primarily because I don't think Ron (iirc) did anything to deserve it. But they were all what, fourteen?, at the time, so...

Ron & Harry would have been 16 and I'm assuming Hermione would have been 17 since her bday is in Sept but yeah I agree.

During their fourth year?

Didn't first-years start out at 11?

The bird attack happened in Half Blood Prince so that's 6th year. Unless I'm thinking of another bird attack, lol. Bird attack when she saw him with Lavender?

...for some reason I thought that happened in fourth year, after the Yule Ball.

Man I'm getting mixed up. Need to re-read for clarity.

Also that makes it way more awful :/

I agree on Ron/Hermione and would add that alongside it I also don't get Harry/Ginny either. It felt too out of left field and shallow.

I briefly flirted with Fëanor/Fingolfin, but really it was only a brief rival-ship with incest for colour. That was a long time ago now and all my interests are now firmly in the Third Age.

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