[ SECRET POST #3094 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3094 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 2 - repeat ].
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Comments

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I already thought it was interesting how in WS his refusal to compromise on the whole SHIELD thing (Fury wants to keep part of SHIELD intact and Steve is like, tear the motherfucker DOWN) leads to them going transparent with *everything immediately*. He tells Natasha to upload everything to the net. Which means, essentially, that all agents operating in the field are immediately compromised and in danger of their lives.

Not just the HYDRA ones. But all of them, the good ones too. The ones who were on missions (where is Clint at this moment?) and now, without warning, their covers are blown.

WTF? How is that the right thing to do? You can dismantle SHIELD in a more orderly fashion than that and still get the worms. Maybe not all of them, but you won't be putting good people's lives at risk.

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

But those people never came up later did they? A flaw isn't a flaw and a mistake isn't a mistake unless it's treated like one by the narrative :\

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Congress threatened to put them in jail but very interestingly, Steve wasn't appearing before them. It was Natasha who took the heat.

Very interesting, as far as the working thesis goes.

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

Congress was an impersonal thing. I meant like, neither Natasha nor Steve had to go look into the eyes of the agents they just decided to compromised for the greater good, it's never shown they even thought about it besides uh oh, they're in trouble with the faceless authority of Government

I can see Natasha not being bothered by the former too badly but Steve would be, but did he even think about it? We don't know, it's glossed over, he was the hero in the end welp

Re: OP here

[dazzledfirestar]

It's worth noting too that we've got canon that Nick Fury was the one out there looking for those lost agents post-TWS (in Agents of SHIELD, he was listening to old SHIELD channels and heard Fitz and Simmons' distress call. It's an easy jump to assume they were not the first or last he saved). Steve demanded the system be torn down but he never actually plans for what comes next.

In the comics he does get called on that but the lesson never really sticks.

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know that about Fury in AoS. Good on him. Maybe that was the shade behind "Looks like you're giving the orders now, Captain." Unspoken was, "Even if they're stupid-ass ones."

Re: OP here

[dazzledfirestar]

lol I got that sense from that comment too. I think it boils down to Steve being very reactionary--this happened so now we have to blow this shit up regardless of any other factors, verse Nick who clearly put time and energy even before things went to hell to figure out who was behind the problems and what to do about it and how to handle the fallout.

Two different styles that clash but are means to the same ends... at least that's how I see Nick and Steve in canon.

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're right on, there.