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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-01-26 06:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #386 ]


⌈ Secret Post #386 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 442 secrets from Secret Submission Post #056.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ] too big, [ 1 ] personal attack, [ 1 2 3 ] repeats of the same damn secret.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, January 27th, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 45

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2008-01-27 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it applies necessarily in the case of Suki, although it still bothers me when male characters with the same sort of thing as her get loved on, but it isn't a thing you can judge on an individual basis.

And as crazy as the Gundam Wing fandom was, I find Mai getting the treatment in discussions that Relena used to get. (I mean I'm a Relena fan, and I can't tell you how much shit I got for that way back when). So that whole trend hasn't completely died yet, although hasn't got to the complete bashing fic stage. yet.

Re: 45

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-01-27 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Right. When a character like Suki is considered boring and disliked for it, a girl who is low-key (I actually find her similar to Yue in that way, though of course they differ strongly in other areas) and is surrounded by the high-energy cast of Avatar... I don't think the go-to reason for that is likely to be sexism. Now, if the secret said "I don't like Suki because she is such a bitch who was mean to Sokka and everyone wants us to worship her and she can't even fight well and she is such a Mary Sue," then I'd be more suspicious.

I'm sorry to hear that about Mai! She had me since "Just take the bear". Well actually she had me much earlier, but that's the most defining moment I can think of. I'm sort of surprised too, as while I can see why people might dislike her, normally it's the more obviously feminine characters, like Katara, who get the brunt of fannish wrath.

Re: 45

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2008-01-27 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think with Mai, it is primarily the shipping thing. She is with Zuko thus a lot of people don't like that so they just get down on her in the worst sort of ways. Sort of making me want to leave the fandom. Had enough of it in GW, I don't have the tolerance for it in Avatar.

Re: 45

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-01-27 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
I never understood the "bash the girlfriend" thing. They're teenagers, and Mai and Zuko, for crying out loud. If you don't want them together, just break them up in your fic. You don't even have to make them OOC!

I was surprised when Mai's crush on Zuko was reciprocated, but I find them fun together. I love "I need to get this to my cranky girlfriend!"