[ SECRET POST #3101 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3101 ⌋

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Comments

[saturnofthemoon]

I think Hannibal pretty much takes the cake when it comes to queerbaiting.

[(Anonymous)]

Hannibal and Sherlock are the worst offenders, I think. In Hannibal, they hint at a "special, deep connection" (more than hint, the characters wax poetic about it almost every second episode), but if you read interviews with the writers/actors, they all insist that it's not meant to be interpreted as a sexual thing - I think someone even said something about their relationship being really close and intimate, but it would never cross that line.

In Sherlock, everyone in the bloody show makes jokes about how the two of them are a couple but then turn around and go "no homo". It's like, either hint at it and make it happen, or don't hint at it at all. It honestly feels like the writers are teasing/mocking fans at this point. I'd rather have no subtext than this frustrating "lol no homo" crap they're dishing. The problem is, they don't think of it as "baiting" - the audience is simply said to have their "slash goggles" on a little too tight - and yet if it were a man and a woman with the same level of subtext in their interactions, the two characters would almost certainly become a couple.

Sorry for ranting, it's just that this has been bothering me for quite a while. Feel free to ignore it.

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to mention Sherlock myself. I was a fan for a bit, and judging by the writing/filming, I admit I did think that they were going for a legitimate romantic tension between Sherlock and John, but the longer it went on with the teasing and joking...it started to leave a bad taste in my mouth. Then I started reading interviews with Moffat and Gatiss about how it was all literally a joke, that it was never meant to be taken seriously and was supposed to just be a "ha ha these two men that are very close keep getting mistaken for a gay couple!!" and nothing more (as though there's something inherently funny about that?), and I pretty much swore off it.

At this point, I honestly just feel bad for the really hardcore shippers. They're aggravating, but they're pouring so much of themselves into this sad delusion that the creators are lying and that they're going to make Johnlock canon in the end that I'm actually kind of worried about how badly some of them are going to take it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think flirting should be totally off the table between anyone. I certainly flirt with people I have no intention of getting off with, mindless of sex and age (inside the grown-up spectrum), just because it's socially good fun.
And the better the chemistry, the further you can take the flirt without it be taken the wrong way and offending anyone. In that view Sherlock and John should be able to tease and prod at their chemistry without it be taken as queer-baiting.
Fangirl-baiting on the contrary, is obnoxious and degrading, if the goal is to make fun of their devoted fans.

How about Homestuck?

[(Anonymous)]

...that webcomic is rife with queer baiting about a half of the time.
It also shows up more often in its fan art..

Re: How about Homestuck?

[(Anonymous)]

...how is fan art queer baiting? it's not canon

Re: How about Homestuck?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Fan art can't, by definition, be queer baiting because the people drawing it have no influence over whether or not the ship is canon. Only people who created/write for the show/comic/whatever in question can queer bait because they have the power to make certain pairings canon. I think it's really reaching to call homestuck "queer baiting" btw. homestuck has several canon m/m and f/f pairings already and there's a difference between ship tease and outright queer baiting. homestuck does a ton of ship tease for m/f AND slash pairings (the term queer baiting has pretty much lost all meaning though, so I'm not surprised that every fucking fandom cries about it).

Re: How about Homestuck?

[(Anonymous)]

Homestuck has several canon queer relationships, and Karkat/John was confirmed, if onesided. Not sure how it would qualify.