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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-02 08:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #3102 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3102 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Zack and Miri Make a Porno]


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03.
[Video Games Awesome]


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04.
[Steven Universe]


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[House MD]


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[Blazing Saddles]


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[My Love Story]


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08.
[Gordon Ramsay, Kitchen Nightmares]


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[Robert Vaughn, Jack Lemmon, William Shatner]


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[MMOs]


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[Death Note]









Notes:

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
*facepalm*

You realize that Mel Brooks did not write this entire film by himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blazing_Saddles

Screenplay by

Andrew Bergman
Mel Brooks
Richard Pryor
Norman Steinberg
Al Uger

Could there be a clue somewhere in the above list? I wonderrrrrrrrrrrr

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
apparently (from an interview I was just reading) one of the first things Brooks said when he started working on the movie was "we need a black guy to validate any use of the N-word"

also, apparently Pryor was the one who wrote the "Mongo only pawn in game of life" gag.

god damn Richard Pryor was a genius

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yup brooks was totally not a racist piece of shit.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well, in fairness, it probably wasn't a totally serious thing to say. And it's also not an absurd position to say, if this is going to be a movie about race, we should have a black voice helping to write it. And he did go out and get Richard Fucking Pryor who then played a very significant role in the writing process.

so basically, if the conclusion you draw from that story is "mel brooks is a racist piece of shit", i don't know what to tell you

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
More than that, Brooks wanted Pryor to play Bart. In fact, when the studio told him no way, he quit the picture in protest. He only came back when Pryor asked him to. Pryor allegedly said (paraphrase from memory) "Look, I'm kinda light, I could pass for Cuban or something. But I know this guy, Cleavon Little, they can't say no to him. He's good-looking, he's funny, he's classy, and he is black as the ace of spades. He'll scare the hell out of them. Now come on back and make this movie." So Brooks did.

So, yeah. People don't know as much about who was responsible for a movie as they think they do.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I am so sad tht my first exposure to Richard Pryor was through that godawful Superman film.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, what? no. That is a total mischaracterization of the interview I just watched. Mel would say, what about here, should we, shouldn't we (in terms of using that word) and Richard would *always* be pushing for it. And Mel said, "I think Richard was messing with me a lot, which was funny." But basically, Richard was being edgy and Mel was being more timid about the racial humor. The impression I'm getting from the interviews is that, though Mel was going for the transgressive angle, he didn't really have that much courage to follow through on the hard line jokes ("Can't you see that man is a ni-?"), so ultimately this was more Richard Pryor's movie about racism and Mel's movie about campfire fart jokes. That doesn't make Mel a racist, though. If anything, it makes him a NY liberal, which is what he was.
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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2015-07-03 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I was just about to post this.

Plus, I also have the Mel Brooks collection, and there is an interview on there where he talks about the writing for the movie. Even back when they were writing it, Brooks was hella nervous about some of the racial content, specifically the frequent use of the n*-word, although at the same time he realized they couldn't do without it. He basically deferred to Richard Pryor, who was in reality the first among equals among the writers.

That's why The Waco Kid, Gene Wilder's character, never uses the n*-word. It's to signify that he's not racist or ignorant, unlike just about everyone else in the movie.
Edited 2015-07-03 01:50 (UTC)