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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-03 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3103 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3103 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Grimm]


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(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yea that whole "Your ship is problematic"-shtick has got to go*. Apparently people can't enjoy slightly (or very) fucked-up ships anymore without being RL proponents of rape and/or abuse. And yeah, shouting at actual abuse survivors happens a lot in these discussions. It's a weird new type of making others feel bad about liking something, and I hope it goes away again.

(*By which I don't mean recognizing fucked-up things as fucked-up, which is totes fine.)

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh I know.
And the worst part is the hypocrisy. They'll scream all day about how awful the ship is and if you ship it you're literally "romanticizing abuse" or some other bullcrap. But the second you mention to be an abuse survivor, they'll automatically let you off the hook because apparently it's only okay to ship "abusive" ships if you've been through abuse yourselF. @_@
Like wtf ew. Try to wrap your head around that.

I've also had a few artists I follow make side japis art blogs just so they wouldn't have to expose their art to anyone who didn't want to see it, and were generally pretty respectful about it. And yet they still somehow got a crapload of hate mail and some artists even ended up deleting their accounts. But considering lapis is the like the biggest notp in the whole fandom, barley anybody cares or notices lol.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
And yeah, shouting at actual abuse survivors happens a lot in these discussions. It's a weird new type of making others feel bad about liking something, and I hope it goes away again.

Yeah, this shit goes pretty far sometimes. A couple of years ago in the Sherlock fandom, there was some Reapersun (a popular artist) wank that got really out of hand. For people outside of the fandom or who missed it, basically, she drew a comic that could reasonably be interpreted as being non-con and some people freaked out to the point that they believed this meant she supports rape irl and harassed her pretty severely about it. Most of the people who pointed out that it was fucked up to bully a person like that were also shouted down and things devolved to the point where anti-Reapersun folks actually passed around a list of people who supported Reapersun and accused them of supporting rape and actually being rapists themselves. The really awful part comes from the fact that numerous people on the list were abuse and rape survivors themselves and made that clear in their posts that defended Reapersun and resulted in them being included in the list. I can't even imagine how upsetting it would be to be a rape survivor and have a bunch of assholes circulate a list that claims you're a rapist yourself just because you think someone shouldn't be bullied because of the art they draw. I've seen and put up with a lot of shit from various fandoms, but that's still one of the things that sickens me the most.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit did that actually happen.
I know the Sherlock fandom was obnoxious but jesus fucking christ.

I've had the whole "here's a big list of people who support this pairing and that makes them bad!!" thing happen before (mcu fandom in case your wondering) but it wasn't that extreme lmao.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It fortunately died down reasonably quickly but, yeah, no matter how often I try to convince myself that it was some kind of weird extended hallucination, it definitely happened. The people who put the list together were so smug about it too and positively didn't give a shit when people brought up the fact that actual rape survivors were on the list. It was truly and genuinely disturbing behavior

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
And lol lemme guess, the peope who made the list and harassed all of those users totally got away with it and were never held to the consequences of their actions. And today, almost nobody ever mentions it or brings it up.

Like ugh why is this behavior so abundant in fandom.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
was it graceebooks?