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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-11 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3111 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-07-11 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I see him as a younger Spock, without the polish and wisdom of age. He has to yet learn the many lessons and acceptance of his human side. So he's a bit more rigid.

I think he did a fair enough job.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-07-11 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can agree with this.

The Spock we are seeing in TOS has been in Starfleet for many years, so he's more mature, so to speak.

And, he's a different character besides. The films don't really explore the implication that by Nero fucking up the timeline, other character changes besides just Kirk's daddy issues take place.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-11 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. There were bits and pieces along the way where Spock Prime admitted he didn't exactly have it together as a young man.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-11 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
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A bit of this, yes. I mean, I kind of hate the new movies and all they stand for (well, mostly ST:ID, but it went retroactively back onto the first one as well), but for the point of his life AOS Spock is at, the characterisation does make some sense.

TOS Spock, by the time we see him, had a good few years in Starfleet and his years with Captain Pike to soften him up some, and even then it was a work in progress. He was massively struggling with emotion and identity right up into movie era, and he always seemed to try and lock it away and become 'unfeeling' whenever that struggle ran against him. Taking a younger Spock, whose emotions are running more strongly and who's had so much less experience dealing with them, it makes sense that he'd overcompensate a bit. We do get hints that even TOS Spock had a bit of a chip on his shoulder when younger. Like, say, the entirety of 'Journey to Babel' and his relationship with Sarek before they ease up a little bit.

I kind of still don't like Quinto as Spock, at all, but there is a logic behind the characterisation as well.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-11 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.
I dunno but Nimoy was proud of him and this should matter, no?
He even thought he added layers to the character he found interesting and made him reconsider his character from a new light.
If you read what he said about how Roddenberry saw Spock, especially young, Quinto's portrayal fits that a lot and like others have mentioned here, he is not supposed to be the same character anyway because that is the point of this being an alternate reality. I don't think with his own life experiences different from the other it would make sense for him to be too much like Nimoy played him.
I don't think of all the cast he's the worst or the most different or more different than Kirk anyway. Scotty and Chekov might as well get called William and Dimitri.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-12 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
He wasn't just more rigid, he was also more angry, pissy, and stuck up. It just starts to not feel like Spock, even it is a younger version. Also, he was pissy before Vulcan blew up, so saying that he was only angry because of that doesn't hold up.