fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #389 ]

⌈ Secret Post #389 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken link, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] too big, [ 1 2 (yes, twice) ] repeat.
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I don't agree they were only implying it was scandalously lewd. The M&M remark suggests they were implying it was also absurdly stupid, with which I concur. I have no clue who created the pony montage, but the comment about artistes implies that they are attacking the absurdity of dressing up my little ponies that way and then trying to pass them off as art or referring to yourself as an artist. That's what I got from the text accompanying the picture. I agree they likely didn't recognize the attempt to mimic the Venus of Willendorf on a plastic pony's ass but the purple Venus only bolsters the other point. Anyone who thinks that's art or demonstrates talent doesn't know much about art.

Okay, I see your point about commentary of the secret being not only on the nature of the customs but also quality and the viewpoint of the customizers. Some people really like that pony. Some do not. I'm ambivalent about it. The colors of the pony are interesting but the Venus seems out of place to me. *shrugs* Is it art? Well, I don't know about that either; I'm no judge of art. There's plenty of modern art pieces that I feel don't deserve the name. Would I call it art? No.

It might be useful for people to know that the pony was made for someone specific. Someone who happens to be a big collector of that particular subject. Art is not subjective to the viewer. Sorry. What you like and dislike may be subjective, but art doesn't work that way. If I like one painting, but hate another, does that mean the one I dislike isn't art? No.

Great. I have some wadded up kleenex on my desk. Let me call it art and I'll frame it and send it to you.

Sorry but there is meaning behind art and sticking a representation of a famous piece of artwork with purple M&Ms to a plastic pony's ass doesn't cut it no matter who you made it for. Every work of art is an expression but not every expression is a work of art. You combined those things not because you found a personal inherent connection between the toy and the Venus but because you had a friend who collected fertility art (?) and you like ponies. Is there another connection? Doesn't sound like it. I mean when you made it what did the plastic pony suggest about fertility that inspired you to link these things together? Oh wait I forgot. You just stuck it there because you make custom ponies and your friend collects fertility objects. Not because you were inspired by any connection between the two objects. Why is it artistic to stick a representation of the Venus on the pony's ass? Why purple other than to match the pony? You know some people insist that Andy Warhol's reproduction of Campbells soup cans isn't really art and truly it's more artistic than what we see here.

You remind me of teenagers who spill their guts on paper and call it poetry.

You remind me of bitter dried up crabs with sand in their vagina. And?

Sorry, but you're not the authority on what art is. No matter how much you try to justify it, you just sound like someone who doesn't like the particular "poem" ragging on it and using your own twisted logic to make your moronic point. Usually, it's the people that suck at the craft, that are it's biggest critics. People who write shitty poetry and can't understand why no one likes it, and then attacks everyone else's styles because they think that will make them more relevant.

Thanks for playing, though.

No usually it's the people who have never bothered to study poetry or literature who argue that they know what art is, which I'm guessing would be someone a lot like you. Maybe you haven't known many literary critics, because good critics tend to come from among the ranks of the best writers. People who write emotional drivel that they mislabel poetry are the ones who get hyperdefensive about their work. "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS? THESE ARE MY FEELINGS!!!! POETRY CAN'T BE BAD!" I think they grow up to write Hallmark cards.

I know enough about art to know for a fact that not everything someone calls art actually is art. Now we could debate this if you are truly one of those who believes that if you make something and call it art then it's art, but that's likely just going to waste my time because it's pretty clear you don't know much of anything except how to pretend you do.

Here's a link to get you started.

http://www.csulb.edu/~jvancamp/361r14.html

You're a joke. I can't believe you take yourself so seriously.

What's even funnier to me is all this art debate on a forum dedicate to Anime 'ART' talk about hilarity. But I respect your right to defend Anime as an artform. Boobs, violence and all.

Actually, I was aware it was made for someone specific, and as I stated in my post, I don't know anything about art, so the only way I know to look at it is subjectively. I don't base it on what I like or dislike, though. I don't like, for instance, Bosch, but I think his work is art all the same. However, in the modern art part of the local museum, I remember seeing a painting that was a red background with a horizontal orange stripe. I don't remember who painted it, but I do remember thinking, "That isn't art." That's the same kind of reaction I have to most custom ponies, but it's just an opinion, not an actual judgement based on any sort of knowledge.

I don't understand why you're attacking me a year later. Seriously. If you don't like the pony, fine. Why are you still yapping about it a year later?

i think you should go cry moar in the Arena or the CF, your attention whoring will get you further there. :)

-anon-who-isn't-the-previous-Anon-although-ilu-anon-anyway

Hmmmm... couldn't answer a legitimate question. Interesting.

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