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⌈ Secret Post #390 ⌋

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- First comment, you know what to do!
- Big thank you to Gargant for the help here! 8D

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Yes, ad hominem attacks. That will shut a bitch up good. Look, this got out of hand pretty quickly. I'm sorry I wasn't more civil, but it is a bit frustrating that you just dismissed him out of hand without even entertaining any of the reasons why he might be so highly regarded.

He is insulting to me as an artist. Plain INSULTING. I can guess that you are not an artist yourself.

*not above poster*

says the half rate fan artist

I.... am not a fanartist. ._.

I'm an artist, however, and I agree with

la_bien_rose. You should stop with the generalizing; that can really ruin an argument, I'll have you know.

Most of his works aren't very pretty, but there's more to "art" than just looking nice.

It's not about what's 'pretty'. It's about the fact that people like that can't draw a stickfigure. They don't work for what they do, they throw paint on a canvas and PRETEND they worked hard. They're hacks.

I'm just a measly little anonymous, but if it makes you feel any better, I agree with you. I mean, I don't claim to have any sort of say over what's art or not, but if one were to ask my opinion, I don't count "red dot on a yellow canvas" art. I don't hate all abstract art, just the sort that...well, the sort that looks like it took 5 minutes to paint and no creativity at all. I know I would rather spend my money on something that actually looks like it took skill and effort to do. If I want a red dot on a yellow canvas, I can do that myself.

(Anonymous because I'm a coward and don't want other anonymous digging up my crappy "art". Just because I draw shitty doesn't mean my opinion's not as valid as anyone's.)

Yeah.... like picasso is one thing. He causes you to rethink beauty and the human figure... but shit like this... it's pathetic. You look at MC Escher and you go "wow" because the spacial effect is amazing. you look at pollock and you go "so he vomited.... onto canvas?"

Teeechnically, "red dot on yellow canvas" type art would probably be non-objective art. Abstract art is art that's supposed to represent something, but does it in a weird, obscure way (like, say, cubism).

I have a little more appreciation for the movement after sitting through a class on it because now I understand that a lot of it was reaction to what had gone before, etc etc, but yeah, as a matter of personal preference...not my favorite.

Now, Whistler "Nocturne in Black and Gold" will get me every time.

I'm an artist and I agree with

tealizard. I don't see how you being an 'artist' (what counts as an artist, anyway?) is supposed to make your argument somehow more valid.

Frankly, I don't care if his stuff is art or not, but I love how these sorts of arguments always boil down to "but I'm an arteest so I know better!" and "your art sucks so your opinion doesn't count!" in the end. Because someone who resorts to such childish retorts is obviously someone whose arguments should be taken more seriously than anyone else's. Obviously.

I can guess that you are not an artist yourself.

Meaning, if you are an artist, you cannot possibly think that there is any sort of merit in Pollock's work. I'm not bad artistically, and I do sell my work, so I think I count. No, it doesn't validate my opinion, it didn't mean it to.

I don't really give two shits about it either, I'm arguing for the hell of it.

lols jealous

Somedays, it pains me so badly.... that I cannot splatter paint like that man could. What talent he had, to... to... oh god, the emotion in the random splotchings of paint, so mathmatical!

Hey, Tealizard, "not-a-fangirl" here. Just curious if you've ever taken a class on abstract art? I haven't (yet) and I used to be as "RAWR" over Jackson Pollock (and others) as you are--not because I am an artist, (though I am, only i write, not draw--I was never a spacial person, but that is completely beside the point. And besides which, tangential) ANYWAY. I had a problem with the amount of time spent seeing "crap art" in my job. (worked in an "art" library. had to file images. for hours.)
But then one of my coworkers politely interrupted one of my "quiet" rants on 'modern art', and suggested that I take a class on modern art, and then see what i thought.
My point is, don't knock what you don't know. No matter how ti looks from the outside, some of the work involved could be more than you think. Of course, if you actually have researched this guy rather than just taking him at surface value more power to you, rock on, ignore this, all that stuff.

I actually do tend to research things i hate. I have a huge-ass art history textbook so... but yeah, i've read and had classes on the guy, i still think he's a hack.

okee dokee, that's all i wanted to know. :)

I lolled at this thread, thanks!

He's not insulting to other artists, though, and that's where you differ. Pollock isn't the type of art I do, but he is a type of art. So it's not your type. It's still a type.

He's not art. He's... a child with a paintbucket.

'WAH WAH WAH, I'm an *~artist~* and that means my opinions counts more than a couple of generations worth of professors and critics, and even though people with way more experience, education, and talent than me have assured that this person is an artist, I will keep arguing it isn't because -i-, as some unknown twit on livejournal who can sorta kinda sketch, am the end all on all things art.'

When I'm trying to appreciate tours of the museum and hear some self important, narrow minded wind bag like you it makes me so fucking miserable. You can say it's your least favorite form, but I've seen that man work, and it is so art.

I'm an artist too, one who does get paid for their work as an illustrator. My opinion isn't discounted by your ~*Certification as an Arteest*~ or whatever it is you'd like to call it.

But uh, old news much? I have an opinion. Get over it. :/

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