[ SECRET POST #390 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #390 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

- First comment, you know what to do!
- Big thank you to Gargant for the help here! 8D

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 152 secrets from Secret Submission Post #056.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Thursday, January 31st, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 38 OP

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

Less "girlfriend" and more "lovers", I think. Just because you're in a relationship with someone doesn't mean you should efface yourself for them-- even if that means you end up doing or being something that bothers them. Xavin was raised in a certain way that apparently involves changing genders to suit the situation (being a woman for your lover, being a man when you want respect, being whatever feels comfortable the rest of the time). I would respect Xavin less if s/he was to stop being who s/he is just because Karolina said she was only attracted to women.

To take the changing clothes analogy-- my girlfriend likes people who dress professionally. (Hypothetically) she comes from a culture where people don't really change between punk and professional, you're either one or the either and it defines you. I come from a place where I can wear what I like when I like. Does that mean I should completely stop switching back and forth because my girlfriend prefers one to the other? Or should she try to learn to relax her standards about dress? Or a little bit of both?

That goes back to a culture gap. How far does one or the other have to reach to bridge the culture gap? Xavin was clearly learning about earth culture and customs-- I'm not really sure I've seen Karolina try and learn about Xavin's culture, although she does seem to be relaxing her standards a bit when it comes to Xavin's gender.

Re: 38 OP

[immortality.livejournal.com]

Okay, I think I understand better what you're saying here.

Honestly, though, I don't know if you can compare switching genders with switching clothing styles. Yes, they're both outside changes, not inside ones, but it seems like a switch from male-to-female (or visa versa) is a much more radical issue than someone simply having different clothing preferences.

Personally, I would respect Xavin more if he was willing to remain female full time, for Karolina's sake, because then I (again, personally) would feel as though Xavin really did care for Karolina. Really, though, I think that if Karolina and Xavin weren't dating, I wouldn't have such a big issue with his/her gender-swapping.

And as a last point: I think that Karolina did try to learn about Xavin's culture, but it all just happened off-panel while they were away visiting their respective planets for their marriage. But, I really don't know.

Re: 38 OP

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

I use the clothing analogy because that was the analogy Xavin used when Karolina said she liked women. For Skrulls, changing gender is like changing clothes. In other words-- for skrulls, it's not a big deal.

I can see where you're coming from, and I think it's a matter of what you think matters more-- whether a character proves their faithfulness to themselves or to their lover. And, you know, in a relationship, that's honestly where a lot of the friction comes from. (The culture gap creates a difference in self vs lover's expectation, and you have to navigate and bridge that gap.)

In other news, your icon is adorable.

Re: 38 OP

[immortality.livejournal.com]

I use the clothing analogy because that was the analogy Xavin used when Karolina said she liked women. For Skrulls, changing gender is like changing clothes. In other words-- for skrulls, it's not a big deal.

Ara! I totally forgot that line. Now your clothing analogy makes even more sense. ;]

Honestly, I think we both have good arguments, but, like you said, what it really comes down to is what you consider to be more important -- if a character is faithful to themselves or someone else.

And thank you! <3

Re: 38 OP

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

:D I love debating this stuff. It's so nerdy. (And also sort of weird, since I much prefer Victor and Gert over Xavin and K...)

Haruka and Michiru were my first ever OTP.

Re: 38 OP

[immortality.livejournal.com]

It is nerdy! But so much fun. :D

Haruka and Michiru were my first ever OTP too. Probably my favorite OTP ever, too. They're the only couple that never left me unsatisfied. (God, that sounds weird -- I hope my intention was clear!).