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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-16 06:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3116 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3116 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm having have less and less respect for anyone not from Japan who bitches about entertainment made by Japanese people, meant for the Japanese market. It's almost as if... gasp... it's not designed for your Western sensibilities. Fancy that.

When the English language localization is out, if there are still issues, complain away. Until then, these kinds of complaints are coming across increasingly as entitled, culturally ignorant, and whiny.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-07-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
First off, I'm not familiar with this game. All I'm going to talk about is the general case.

With that said, queer characters aren't representative of "culture." They're representative of queer people. If an American story stereotypes queer people, it would be silly to call on culture to justify it, because all the writer would have to do is talk to actual queer people to learn that they're not all walking stereotypes. Why would Japanese queer people be more stereotypical?
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-07-17 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
This ignores the extent to which being queer is defined by culture, and just how much sexuality is influenced by it. You don't even need to look as far back as the greeks to see what I mean.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-07-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
But the Greeks, or at least certain Greeks, were actually having gay sex with each other. I can't claim to be an expert on gay people in Japan, but I don't think they were the ones who defined what stereotypes straight people associate with them.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
But those particular character tropes are extremely popular in media aimed at straight people too. They're popular in general. Pick any m/f dating sim and I guarantee you there will be a yandere option and possibly a sadist option.

Japanese people like those tropes, so it's no surprise that they would want to pick popular character tropes to use as a measure of how much interest there would be in same-sex pairings.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, they're an option. If you want same-sex, it's yandere/sadist or nothing. Which is what a lot of us don't like.

Especially when they have a canonically bisexual character who admits romantic interest in both sexes who inexplicably has no same-sex romantic support.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck your cultural relativism.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, first, many of these games are not just for the Japanese market. Nintendo especially is kind a big deal around the world, and they are actually somewhat interested in maintaining that global market.

And second, guess what, they have gay gamers in Japan. The have straight people in Japan who might enjoy gay pairings. (yaoi/yuri is actually a good market there) LGBT people and interest exists outside of "Western sensibilities".

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
shut up and stop complaining, gay people! this game is japanese!

this is like listening to the tomodachi life bullshit all over again