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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-18 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3118 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3118 ⌋

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Re: When gay characters die...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-18 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
thiiiiiiiiiiiiiis you've basically summed it up right there.

Brokeback Mountain IS this trope. It's rare for gay characters to appear in media at all, even rarer that they get a happy ending. (Because clearly they're going to hell!)

Re: When gay characters die...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Uh, "gay fridging" is certainly a thing, but not all gay people who die in media are necessarily fridged. Brokeback Mountain is NOT an example of that - the story centers around their love story, and the death of one of the characters is not to punish anyone or get rid of scary gay subtext. That is just not the case at all. And the main character learns how to come to terms with his love and gayness at the end, thus definitely not being a gay fridging trope.

I'll agree that "gay Romeo and Juliet" tropes might.. be "overplayed", but frankly I find them too realistic in this day and age to really accuse of being trite.

Re: When gay characters die...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
The problem that I have with this argument is that, if you look at the sum totality of Western media, it's just clearly not the case that characters dying or getting a tragic ending means that the characters are bad or going to hell. Or is Shakespeare telling us, in Hamlet, that all Danes will burn in hell?

I don't think it would be useful in any way to cut off gay characters from the vast range of stories that have tragic endings. I think there should be more happy endings. But that doesn't mean sad endings are bad.

Re: When gay characters die...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hamlet is one story. If there was a history of Danes only ever being written into stories if they died tragically, typically as a result - explicit or implicit - of being Danish, you might have a valid comparison.