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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-25 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3125 ]


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DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"life ruining burden"

You're still fucking being disgusting there. Taking about disabled people as if they're not human and then pulling the "BUT I CARE ABOUT THEIR CARETAKERS" argument is still being massively ableist.

It's not wrong to care about the families. But using that as an excuse to treat a human being as if they're subhuman is fucking ableism. That's the kind of attitude that gets disabled people murdered and their murderers let off scott free.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck you. I went through hell at school because my grother was one of those supposed high functioning autistics who got off on spouting his own brand of master race crap, all us "neurotypicals" were beneath him and we'd all be slaves when the world recognized his genius. He had as much awareness of what that was doing to the rest of the family as your average mushroom. His behavior got me beat up on a daily basis and excluded from every social circle, and it basically drove our parents to divorce. If there was a cure to make sure he'd stop ruining the lives of others, and could spare any other family going through that hell, then I'd have it used in a microsecond. Hell, I'd hold him down and do it myself if I could. It was just a shame there wasn't a home we could have dumped him in, and god knows but my dad looked for one.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow "fuck you" because I'm against treating someone as subhuman?

I'm sorry your brother was a dickbag. but that doesn't mean it's right to treat disabled people as subhuman.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I'm concerned, they are.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Well sorry but thinking an entire group of people is subhuman makes you a bigot.

Having a bad experience with a member of a group doesn't give you the right to take away the humanity of everyone else like that.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-07-25 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't you lovely.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-07-25 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
0/0

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"I went through hell at school because my grother was one of those supposed high functioning autistics who got off on spouting his own brand of master race crap, all us "neurotypicals" were beneath him and we'd all be slaves when the world recognized his genius."

How are you any different? Really your attitude sounds like the same attitude in the opposite direction. Sorry to say but you don't sound much different from your brother. What's YOUR excuse? Your sob story?

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You didn't *read* his post, did you? Too busy brewing your self-indulgent ally credentials, probably. He had a fucking horrible time and all you can do is victim-blame. Good job.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
He's using his "horrible time" to justify why it's okay to feel an entire group of people are sub human. Also he'sa hypocrite. He hates his brother for believing himself a "master race" while turning around and declaring everyone who shares a condition with his brother to be "sub human".

Sorry but you can't use "i had a horrible time with this kind of person" to justify being a bigot.

It's not victim blaming to tell someone that it's not okay to call a large group of people subhuman.

You're too wrapped up in "awww but he SUFFERED" to see that his behavior is shitty. Having a sob story is no excuse to be a bigot.

Also I have a sibling with the same condition. They were treated like shit for their condition and I'll tell off anyone who considers people like them to be "sub human". Is OP's suffering more legit than the suffering of another person?

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I would not be surprised if that guys parents where in the Aryan Nation, or something.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the world of personal responsibility.

Ever hear of the phrase "it's a reason but not an excuse"?

That applies here. The anon's experience my be the reason for his attitude, but it doesn't justify the fact that he is saying a group of people is subhuman.

It's not victim blaming in the least. In the real world a bad experience doesn't justify you from doing something wrong or saying something wrong. People are still going to criticize when you say things like "this entire group of people are below human". The anon said something kind of shitty. He isn't protected from criticism.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a high-functioning autistic, and had uncles on both sides of my family that were the same. They lived relatively normal lives and were mostly noteworthy for being awkward and uncomfortable at family gatherings. They certainly never mentioned any ridiculously disgusting master race bullshit. One liked to cook and always gave me books as presents. The other had retired from the US Navy and owned a bike store with his wife.

And if I'd ever mentioned anything about high-functioning autistics being the rightful rulers of the world, I would've been (rightfully) soundly mocked and probably had my faced punched in. I was and sometimes still am an annoying walking encyclopedia of weird facts and dumb trivia. But I try not to be an asshole, because it is possible to learn how not to be one.

Your brother sounds like an ass, but tbh it sounds like a family tendency. Nothing like "we were gonna dump you in a home, but no-one would take you because you're a nutcase" and "how's it feel knowing you ruined my life and our parent's marriage, you freak?" to shore up your brother's mental stability and show him how to be an empathetic human being.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah seriously That's what I thought. My experience has been that thinking your a genius can be a defense mechanism against people who treat you like the opposite all the time. And with the OP's attitude it sounds like they would have a hell of an inferiority complex.

Honestly OP sounds just as bad,e specially with the "if I could I would force a cure on him, he ruined my family's life woe is me". I mean the fact that OP takes such offense to the mere idea that autistics aren't subhuman.

I bet OP was a hell of a bully themselves to their sibling.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
People here need to stop using their shitty relatives as justification for ableism. Your attitude is still shit.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Relax, guy. I'm not going to murder my disabled family members. I'm just not going to interact with them at all unless/until I can be sure that it's safe for them to be left unattended around knives and matches.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just saying. People have used that kind of thinking as justification for murdering disabled people.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
People have also used a crush on Jodie Foster as a justification for murder, so what's your point?

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Shut the fuck up, precious.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Great response.

Can you explain what's wrong with it? Just saying "shut up" is a weak argument.