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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-28 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3128 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3128 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[X-Men]


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[Hayley Atwell]


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[Infamous]


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[Tokyo Mew Mew]


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[Peep Show]


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[Rhett & Link/Good Mythical Morning]


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[Brooklyn Nine Nine]


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[Lava]


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[Steven Universe]










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(Anonymous) 2015-07-28 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, like, i agree that king of queens is a bad show, but at the point where we're saying that any representation of a fat man with a non-fat woman is a bad thing, i think we might be going a little too far

da

(Anonymous) 2015-07-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm just fucking tired of it tho

just

uhg

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
that's legit but there's a difference between being personally tired of a thing and systematic critique of a thing

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps for them they are tired of it because it's a damaging trope? That is a big one for many.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-28 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If only this trope existed in only one bad show..

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
that bit was mostly a joke

because i'm very witty, you see

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
NO YOU SHOULD ONLY EVER DATE YOUR BODY TYPE. WE MUST KEEP FAT PEOPLE WITH FAT PEOPLE AND THIS PEOPLE WITH THIN PEOPLE.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
literally no one said that

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
That isn't the problem. The problem is that you never see the reverse. Actually, you very rarely see fat men with fat women in media either (I can only think of a few examples). Generally women in media are always thin and stereotypically beautiful no matter what her male partner looks like.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
that's a huge problem! but i think it is possible to focus too much on specifically hating the trend (which i don't think is even *that* common) of fat husband / thin wife.

like, first, if your problem is that women in media are required to be thin and stereotypically beautiful, focusing on the fact that the dude is allowed to be fat and yet still date an attractive woman, as people seem to do, seems like a really weird part to focus on.

and second, i think when you focus on that, i think it opens the possibility for people to legitimately misunderstand and come to the conclusion that AYRT has come to. and at the end of the day, society is both fat-phobic and patriarchal. those are both things that happen.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
And oh look, a movie with an old male lead with his hot young female love interest, kill it with fire... no actually, it's just more of the same fucking thing, because it ties into widely palatable ideas about het romance. Like this.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
i don't think it does tie into widely palatable ideas about het romance. that's part of my point here. i think it's the outcome of very specific things in popular media. don't get me wrong, a lot of those things are basically deeply patriarchal or misogynist worldviews - i'm not denying that - but i don't think the way that relationships are presented in movies and TV is an accurate mirror of anyone's views on relationships, really.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
It might not be an accurate mirror but that's the problem, because people believe it, absorb it. Hello heteronormativity!

If you think media has no significant effect on people's beliefs and behaviours growing up then... I don't think we have common ground here.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
i think media has a significant effect on people's beliefs but i don't think it's a simple, one-to-one thing