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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-29 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3129 ]


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[personal profile] fscom 2015-07-29 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It bothers me that with all the budget and special effects available
None has made a good
Godzilla movie

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It's completely unsurprising.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The most recent one was awesome.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It was okay. I was kind of disappointed that (SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS AHEAD) Bryan Cranston was in it and then died twenty minutes in. WTF...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
There was way to much focus on the military too. It was like they took all the worst parts of the old movies, the pretentiousness, and left out all the best bits of the monsters.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The one where people stare blankly all the time?

Sorry, even the one where he fights the giant mantis on the weather control island was better than that.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Even the lobster one was better than the most recent flick, and he spent most of that in a coma. This one, the audience did.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
See, no one seems to agree with me about the recent one.

I fell asleep twice during the big city destruction/fight scene

I did wake up for the atomic breath, tho

[identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com 2015-07-29 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the original Japanese film (with the Oxygen Destroyer subplot intact and no spliced-in Raymond Burr) was quite good (and surprisingly grim). Sure, the FX work is primitive to modern eyes, but it's decent for the era.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-07-29 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's almost like special effects can't salvage a shitty screenplay! oh wait...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Only once has that ever happened, then they made two sequels and a confusing pseudo-anime that ruined even that fx-fest.

Godzilla is a B movie monster.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
And some film makers get that and some really don't, even if they try. So either you get a B movie, which is, well, a B movie or you get some weird mash-up of a B movie monster with a sort of regular action and/or drama movie sensibility.
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Re: Godzilla is a B movie monster.

[personal profile] bio_obscura 2015-07-30 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. I think the 2014 did a great job of incorporating a relevant social fear without just blatantly ripping off the original symbolism. It was fun and tense, the climax was awesome, there was atomic breath and Godzilla was the hero. The director was very competent to fit so many elements of the entire franchise into one film. Really the only thing missing was the straight-up ridiculousness.

Re: Godzilla is a B movie monster.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
The missing thing being the one thing most of the audience were paying for. Most of us were not there for the arthouse element, which the director put front and center. If they'd removed that and focused on the camp and the monster battles, there would be a lot less complaining about the movie.
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Re: Godzilla is a B movie monster.

[personal profile] bio_obscura 2015-07-30 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't really understand the complaints that it wasn't a good movie because Godzilla wasn't in it enough. It doesn't matter how many minutes of runtime Godzilla occupies, it matters what you do with the material.

That scene in the plane was one of many moments that stood out as amazingly well-done tension. It was a great monster/horror movie, which is what the original Godzilla was conceived as. I just can't see how anyone would rather have Japanese dudes doing karate in monster suits (or, God help us, whatever Hollywood's CGI interpretation of that would be).
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Re: Godzilla is a B movie monster.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah the Godzilla doing the highland fling and throwing monsters around is what I paid my fifteen bucks for. I don't care about the art school crap. I was sold a monster movie throwdown, and that is not what I got. I've a right to be pissed.

Re: Godzilla is a B movie monster.

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[personal profile] bio_obscura 2015-07-30 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Godzilla 2014 was fantastic.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Using a very literal and carefully circumscribed definition of the word, yes, yes it was.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I hope the sequel takes a page from Fury Road's book. Just like Fury Road was one long chase-battle, so the sequel should just open with Godzilla and some other monster fighting, and keep going. Have some bystanders throw comments, and keep having to get out the way, but make the movie just one long fight sequence. That would rock. We don't need navel gazing.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I felt like the newest movie had a lot of great elements to it; I liked the serious tone and the tension and the slow build up to things like the atomic breath. If they'd just cut WAY down on the son's subplot/replaced him with Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe pursuing the monsters all reverent and scared shitless like they were in the beginning, it would have been better.

Also, more Blue Oyster Cult.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Bryan Cranston should've been the main character. His wife didn't have to die, what a waste of a fine actress, but if they still had to kill her then the emotional weight in the movie could be about him coming to terms with her death and letting go of his hatred for Godzilla or something.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Godzilla ought to have been the main character. Leave the humans to one side, for occasional commenting purposes only.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There's zero chance of drumming up a fandom that way in the west.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? It worked last time. That is literally the reason that Godzilla has a Western fanbase.

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