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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-29 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3129 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3129 ⌋

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[personal profile] ketita 2015-07-29 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I personally haven't seen too much woobification of him either, but I suppose if I wanted to make an excuse for why it could be happening, I'd say it's because there's a vague way to shift the blame. There are nebulous 'others' who can be called abusive, therefore Hans can be absolved*.
We don't have anything like that for Gothel, no background, nothing beyond her desire for the flower's power. Therefore she's Pure Evil with no redeeming qualities, or abusive past to excuse her.

*this is bullshit, yes? Hans was despicable

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
You just wanted to say flower power
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-07-29 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't deny it.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-29 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
With "A Frozen Heart" (Frozen told from both Hans and Anna's perspective) coming out, there's probably going to be more woobification.

To be honest, I was in the fandom for quite some time. And while there were definitely people woobifying Hans, it wasn't as much as the fandom led everybody to be believe. Mainly because whenever it happened, most of the fandom would go after said person and there were plenty of 'friendly reminder that Hans is a sociopath' posts and 'lol stupid Hans fans' posts circulating around. It also didn't hurt that the BNF of the fandom was the one who made a lot of those posts. There were also a fair amount of people who didn't seem to get that explaining does not equal excusing and would lump the people doing so with actual woobifiers.

Fun fact: pretty much almost every drama that happened during my time in the frozen fandom revolved around Hans.