[ SECRET POST #3132 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3132 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I feel some of this too. I definitely have takes on canon that aren't usual and I feel very alone about that, and I know if I did write something I would be attacked.

And I really feel you on not being able to articulate your stance. I have this in all parts of my life. I will hear someone else make this elegant argument on some topic - well researched and well spoken - but when I try to repeat it, I can't do it and end up in an argument with the person I'm trying to talk to and I feel if they had just heard the argument I had that at least we could move forward with the discussion and they too might agree with what was said.

Same with fandom. I've had debates here where I know what I'm trying to say but it doesn't come out right and ends up in wank that I don't mean. On the other hand, I do feel that debating here has sharpened my skills a bit. For every wanking thread I get into, I get a little better at figuring out what my main point is and how to say it so it actually comes across.

[elaminator]

Yeaaaaaaa, I suffer from this too. In my experience it is easier to +1 someone than to type out a separate comment (not that I don't do it anyway... fairly often, at that) because I can't articulate worth shit.

Oops.

(Mine don't tend to lead to arguments though. Sometimes people misunderstand me or are confused by what I'm trying to say, but...it happens. It'll happen to everyone eventually.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, if it's an article then it's easy to just forward the article or +1. But it's often where I hear an interesting debate on TV (like on the Bill Moyers show - I'm not sure if I can even link to that the way I could Jon Stewart). They're so articulate on that show and I'm so very not.

I often find myself just trying to articulate what the arguments were on the show, and my friends will take issue with an argument and when they do, I realize how I've mangled what was being said because I'm 100% sure that my friends wouldn't have taken issue with the argument if they'd heard what the guy saying it had actually said.

And if it's a lecture that I've attended, then I'm totally screwed because there's nothing to link to at all. :(

[elaminator]

Ooo, that makes sense, yea. I would probably make the same mistakes... I'm not good at repeating what I've heard. I avoid doing it unless we're talking about something fairly small and unimportant... Anything of actual merit I try to link to because I know I'll leave out something, probably important. (Or just fumble my way through it awkwardly, in a way that leaves something to be desired.)

:/ Practice helps! (Maybe only so much, though.)

[philippos42]

I've been there.

Rhetoric and debate are skills, and they're skills that many schools don't really work that hard at teaching. Trying to rephrase something in your own words sometimes means losing what made it work.

And of course, some people you talk to just won't be convinced of certain things, and make you doubt what you heard even if it made sense the first time.