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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-03 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3134 ]


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Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My point, I guess, is that - while the structure of understanding of race and of prejudice in Europe is certainly very different from the American, and it doesn't make any sense at all to use the "White / POC" framework that is the kind of default in America, I think the idea of a group being "not really white" is one that does exist in that framework. Not in the same way by any means - just because they're "not really white" doesn't mean they're "non-white" in the way that an American understanding would have it - but it's an idea that exists.

Second (and I'm going to assume you meant 1860 and not 1960 in that dating there?) but I would argue that, even if it started only in the 19th century, the point still ought to be made that there is a tradition of racism qua racism present in Europe, for quite a long time, and that it's very relevant to talk about. It's very difficult to talk about, because the basic understanding of race is totally distinct from the American understanding, but it still definitely does exist. And it exists as a concept of racism and not of discrimination.