[ SECRET POST #3135 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3135 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Supernatural]


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[Floraverse]

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Bryan Cranston: Breaking Bad vs. Malcolm in the Middle]

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 045 secrets from Secret Submission Post #448.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0- too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Me too, though there are plenty of exceptions, it's just that if I'm taking a punt and investing my time & maybe money on an unknown speculative fiction author it's safer to go for a woman writer. Reason? Too many times I've ended up in a morass of gratuituous rape scenes, gratuitous violence, cursory characterisation, cardboard women, misanthropic views of human nature, and endless mechanical descriptions of warfare which do not personally interest me.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you people just reading military SF?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT lol no

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Then what the hell are you reading? Where is all this rape and misanthropy coming from?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT and just guessing but maybe, you know

the entire genre of post-Tolkien epic fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

But I've read a lot of that.

[feotakahari]

It's not like female writers are necessarily safe from that kind of bullshit. (I'm never reading Robin Hobb again.)

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT No, for sure, I'm just talking about tendencies when I'm guessing what to read.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Robin Hobb has her own collection of issues.

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine they also avoid video games because "gratuitous violence, cursory characterisation, cardboard women, misanthropic views of human nature, and endless mechanical descriptions of warfare".

Granted, the only games they ever played where Call of Duty, Halo, Gears of War, and Battlefield. BUT STILL!

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT I'm not a gamer. But thanks for playing this game.

[(Anonymous)]

Duh. Cuz you thought they were all about violence. DID YOU EVEN READ THE COMMENT YOU ARE REPLYING TO?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Ayup.

[(Anonymous)]

They're probably the author of secret #6 then.

[(Anonymous)]

Not even saying you're wrong

I just don't think it's that hard to avoid that bullshit, once you know what you're looking for

I mean, it's difficult in a proportionate sense

[(Anonymous)]

Funny enough most of the bullshit (to my tastes) seems to be from male writers tho.

I started a fun project a couple years ago where I would read everything I could find with Norse myth themes regardless of content/taste/author. Have to say my developed rules of thumb for selecting fiction to my taste are still not being disrupted/disproven to any great degree.

[(Anonymous)]

That was AYRT btw

[(Anonymous)]

I agree the bullshit's more common with male authors, but there are other things that also tell you when the bullshit is happening, is my point

and I think, yes, trying to read everything with specific themes is going to lead you into reading a lot of terrible horseshit, particularly those things

[(Anonymous)]

Disclaimer - I have not read any of her work. But I know Seanan Mcguire has publicly stated she will never include rape in her books, no matter how many people keep asking her for it or advising her to include it.

[(Anonymous)]

Please tell me who goes up to a writer and says "you know I think your writing needs more rape"? Like is that a thing that happens?

[(Anonymous)]

If you think like a ficcer when you're asking the author, yes.

[(Anonymous)]

From how I understand it, it was more that people kept asking her "when is [female character] going to get raped?" as if it was somehow inevitable.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm curious if there is any difference in amount of gratuitous rape scenes in the works of male writers vs female writers. In my experience, it's pretty much identical. Actually, all the big name female fantasy writers that come to mind, especially the ones I read the most in high school, were ridiculously rapey.

And then some of them turned out to be rapists irl. Looking at you, Marion Zimmer Bradley..

[(Anonymous)]

Rape-as-drama seemed to be a big theme in the 80s-90s fantasy genre in general. It never seemed gender-specific when it came to author.