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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-04 06:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #3135 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3135 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2015-08-04 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
04. http://oi61.tinypic.com/313lqn8.jpg
Edited 2015-08-04 22:29 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just "sexism", no reverse about it. But that's your call, OP.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

:P

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wrong. "sexism against men" is an invention of whiny MRAs who object to anything that challenges male advantage.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, just... do your research. E.g, James Tiptree, Jr.

(And I just had to add this hilarious quote from Silverberg quite in the wikipedia article: "It has been suggested that Tiptree is female, a theory that I find absurd, for there is to me something ineluctably masculine about Tiptree's writing." — Robert Silverberg, "Who Is Tiptree, What Is He?")

/exit stage left, guffawing.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-08-04 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
She wrote a story in which genocide of men is portrayed as necessary and justified, and people thought she was a man?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too, though there are plenty of exceptions, it's just that if I'm taking a punt and investing my time & maybe money on an unknown speculative fiction author it's safer to go for a woman writer. Reason? Too many times I've ended up in a morass of gratuituous rape scenes, gratuitous violence, cursory characterisation, cardboard women, misanthropic views of human nature, and endless mechanical descriptions of warfare which do not personally interest me.

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Are you people just reading military SF?

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-08-04 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like female writers are necessarily safe from that kind of bullshit. (I'm never reading Robin Hobb again.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I imagine they also avoid video games because "gratuitous violence, cursory characterisation, cardboard women, misanthropic views of human nature, and endless mechanical descriptions of warfare".

Granted, the only games they ever played where Call of Duty, Halo, Gears of War, and Battlefield. BUT STILL!

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-08-04 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if you know you're less likely to enjoy something because of X reason, might as well avoid it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That's frankly pretty stupid

WAIT LET ME FINISH

that's frankly pretty stupid because fantasy is a genre where, once you're sufficiently familiar with it, you can get an incredibly good idea of what a book is going to be like from the cover and description and style of the thing. So it's not really necessary to use a test like this to determine which books you're going to enjoy. That's really easy to figure out. And there are, on rare occasions, good fantasy books written by men.

Of course that's not to deny that (a) tons of fantasy sucks and (b) lots and lots of it is written by men or in particular that (c) a lot of the fantasy that is most prone to sucking is most likely to be written by many

because good lord is THAT absolutely the case

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-08-04 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I just find this so weird. I mean, I've heard people mention it, but I honestly can't really tell the difference between male of female writing, especially for stuff like fantasy or sci-fi.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I actively support and promote women in genres they don't normally get published in like Science Fiction or Horror. But to pass up a book just because you THINK the writer is male by the name is silly. A few women still publish under masculine or gender neutral names but besides that you might miss a good story. Get over yourself OP and read for the book not just the name on the cover.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What about the girls who use pseudonyms?

Ever think about that?!

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, hope you can work on that sexism, OP? Not that it's harming anyone in this case, and assuming you actually buy your books it's great to support female authors, especially in fantasy sci-fi. But it just sounds like you've put yourself in a tough situation where you're going to voluntarily miss out on a lot of great stuff because you're sexist.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You realize some female authors use male psudonyms, because it makes it easier for them to get published right?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I... kind of do something similar? Like, if it's been recommended to me, I'll give it a shot, of course, but I definitely much more likely to read a fantasy novel if it's been written by a woman, mainly because I've had too many books ruined for me by weirdly-written female characters and male-gaze-y depictions of f/f sex. I don't think I'd go as far as to say that I avoid books written by men, but I'm much less likely to read them.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well, so, you're missing out on Terry Pratchett, then? Huh.

I mean, "Terry" could be a woman's name, right? Take a chance on Dame Pterry, then! (Skip the first three Discworld books.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
As arbitrary as your opinion is OP I actually don't see anything wrong with it. It's odd reasoning, no doubt and you are probably missing out on some great, non-shitty fantasy, but hey there are great books by female authors too so. :shrug:

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
That's so terribly arbitrary, OP, and you're missing out!

By reading fantasy novels instead of cookbooks who knows the countless amazing recipes you've never had the chance to read about? Why impose such a limit? Won't someone think of the cookbooks?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's fine. You don't have to read books written by men if you don't want to.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
My father feels this way about sci-fi (and most fiction, really). He feels that women writers are generally better at exploring the dynamics/relationships between characters, and that their writing styles tend to be to observe things and asking questions rather than to make judgments and giving answers, while men's writing more often does the latter.

That's his opinion, not mine. I don't really know what my opinion is, though I do tend to prefer female writers. It's not a rule for me though, just a general tendency.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who's found that women are doing better than the men in the writing department lately... You're a sexist. Swap "Male" with "Female" and see how it looks. Or "Black" or "Gay" or any group. That's a poor reason to refuse to read a book. You can always put a book down if you find you don't like it.

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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-08-06 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Uh...sexism is sexism. No reverse to it. Same as as racism.