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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-05 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3136 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3136 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Tamora Pierce's works do tend to have this problem, don't they? Keladry and the four from Circle of Magic aren't Sues, but all her other protagonists... yeah, pretty much.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, really? I haven't read the book, but I read an essay about Keladry and she sounds like the biggest Sue that ever Sued.
loracarol: (nekkid people are funny)

[personal profile] loracarol 2015-08-05 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, the thing with Kel (for me, at least), is that yes, she has all these skills- and we see her work for them. She's really good at the lance, but she's been working her ass off at it for years. She's strong, but she started with weighted equipment.

Her being the daughter of an ambassador (and the skills she learned there) can come off as kind of Sue-ish at times, I won't lie; her martial arts skills/naginata skills, for example, but with the naginata, she gets up at five every morning to practice, and the martial arts knowledge gets her ostracized, by both students (who think she's showing off) and teachers (such as the archery teacher, who humiliates her in front of the group for not knowing how to shoot a Tortallian-style bow, and screwing up).

YMMV and all that, etc. etc. etc.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. Alanna's 'famed' temper rarely shows up, and Daine's flaw was being unsocialised and 'a bit odd' having grown up with only her mother, away from the local village, had no friend then spent some time as a wolf. However this was quickly remedied by her making several friends, pretty much all of whom were important people in the realm. And the fact she thought she was crazy is removed within the first few chapters, and her status as a bastard is never made a thing of outside the small village she grew up outside of, only to find out her father was a god. I love Daine's books for the cute animal stuff but I also realise the flaws in those books,

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. Alanna's 'famed' temper rarely shows up, and Daine's flaw was being unsocialised and 'a bit odd' having grown up with only her mother, away from the local village, had no friend then spent some time as a wolf. However this was quickly remedied by her making several friends, pretty much all of whom were important people in the realm. And the fact she thought she was crazy is removed within the first few chapters, and her status as a bastard is never made a thing of outside the small village she grew up outside of, only to find out her father was a god. I love Daine's books for the cute animal stuff but I also realise the flaws in those books.