[ SECRET POST #3136 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3136 ⌋

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Comments

Re: What defines a Mary Sue for you?

[dani_phantasma]

Honestly this is why I wish the name of the term had more to do with that> 'Center of Attention" or "Black Hole Character" would be better than Mary Sue, because even if people didn't know the term , the name of the term would be easier to figure out.

Also I wish at least with Mary Sue that the meaning had stayed more defined, rather than being so subjective that it could mean all sorts of things.

You can't have a single term cover every sort of bad character out there, and still be useful in constructive criticism.

da

[(Anonymous)]

well, I can see the want for a new term, but Mary Sue was coined specifically for fanfic OCs, for female self-inserts who banged the MC/all the male cast and exhibited all these sparkletraits (your list is spot-on). So I think the term itself is still valid, but when you're talking about a canon character, Canon Sue is enough. It implies, a la Wesley Crusher, that the creator of the canon was using them as a self-insert/personal wish fulfillment in a way.

I like Black Hole, though.

Re: What defines a Mary Sue for you?

[ketita]

When I was growing up, I used to say this character has "Main Character Syndrome" (or MCS). I actually noticed it in male characters long before I ever did with female