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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-05 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3136 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3136 ⌋

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chardmonster: (Default)

Re: The thing is, you really can't.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2015-08-07 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
The police aren't allowed to blow your house up, is what I'm saying. If they were there's sweet fuck and all you could do about it.

I'm simply talking about an incentive to make blowing up your house more trouble than it's worth. I live in a country that had a pandemic of bombings and lynchings against one of our largest minority groups within the lifetime of some of its citizens. I don't trust the United States government--specifically the US government, I think strict gun control works in a lot of other places--to protect minorities who don't hold much economic power. I'm basing that on our history and on specific aspects of our fucked up culture.

I think you're confusing this position with right wing wackjobs who are worried they might encounter a nonwhite person and that there's some kind of New World Order going down.
Edited 2015-08-07 09:56 (UTC)
ariakas: (Default)

Re: The thing is, you really can't.

[personal profile] ariakas 2015-08-07 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
That's just the thing, though: if they're allowed to use military hardware - like the government has plenty of, especially yours - blowing up your house not only isn't "more trouble than it's worth," it's not any trouble at all. Defending yourself against your actual government is a ludicrous pipe dream, whether you're a right-wing wackjob or a persecuted minority. Your handgun and kiddie carbine aren't going to help you against a drone strike.

But if you're not actually talking about the "US Government" (though those are your words), but rather some murderous racist local cops... maybe? It's tough to say. Shack Guy with a Hunting Rifle certainly did manage to "defend himself" against some cops.

What is it exactly you don't "trust" the "US government" not to do? You're talking guerrilla warfare above, and resisting occupiers - do you see your own government as an occupier? Are they going to go on an extended campaign to hunt down black people? With who, the army? Which has a disproportionate number of black service members and isn't allowed to fight on your soil? With a black president in office? Is this one of those the extreme left starts mirroring the extreme right at the tail ends type scenarios, like anti-vax?

I'm just trying to imagine how you think owning a firearm is going to protect some random black person from "the government." And if it's not from the government, but from cops, why hasn't that actually worked, in reality? Black people are allowed to own guns, and yet somehow the police in the US keep killing them.

Owning guns sure hasn't kept cops from killing native Canadians here, either.