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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-02 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #393 ]


⌈ Secret Post #393 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 450 secrets from Secret Submission Post #057.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 3 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 ] too big, [ 1 ] personal attack, [ 1 2 ] wtf?
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, February 3rd, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
They aren't THAT ridiculous. I mean yeah the CRACK and the OOCness and weird outfits are a bit much, but thats just who I am. I can't just draw angst and seriousness as well as others. I'm more of a...non-serious person?

[identity profile] neuewelt.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Even if that's the fact, others may not take it as a harmless joke like you do. It's becoming repeatitive, and it's not even your stories that make people dislike you, just as [livejournal.com profile] jiora said. It's your attitude towards others, and if you aren't recognized, then you make countless comments on their post just to aggravate others.

You were asking for this for quite some time now.

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I had no idea what I was doing. I just wrote what I thought was ok. I seriously didn't think that my replies were this serious. I'm not as smart as most people. i just need someone to take the time to talk to me provately and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm serious. I need somone to help me, ok? You may think what you're doing is cool, but I already feel like crap. I know what I did wrong, and I feel bad about it. just help me out, ok?

[identity profile] neuewelt.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
And I don't think I'm cool-- I know I'm cool. -smacked-

Did you even see my other comment, or are you disregarding it?
I'm not doing this so others can be like "HEY THIS [livejournal.com profile] neuewelt CHICK IS SO KICKASS", I'm doing this so I can get my point, and other's, across to you. But if you're going to stand by and question to same thing over and over about your fanfictions, then I don't think any amount of help will do you any good.

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
sorry about the "cool": part that was my bad.


I get what you hate about my fanfictions, but I still need someone to talk to me to help me get this worked out and know what to write.

[identity profile] neuewelt.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read your fanfictions, and I probably never will due to the courtesy of the other people here. Seriously, and literally.

What you write is your own creations, but from what I can see so far, it's just like [livejournal.com profile] devicing said, and if it's really THAT hard for you to comprehend her words and try to restrain yourself from writing such insane stories--

Then maybe you shouldn't bother posting them.

And I'm not saying this because I'm a bitch; I'm saying what everyone else is too afraid to say to your face. But maybe I should stop wasting my time with this, because I'm sure this is going to turn into something that isn't pretty since it's obvious that you're not going to understand us without having to slap you in the face with it.
Edited 2008-02-03 03:57 (UTC)

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well i have to post some of my fics because they are requests. I can't give up on those. at least understand me for that...

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(Anonymous) 2008-02-26 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes... yes you ARE a bitch for saying that. I just read through the comments and my goodness, it's already on the harassing side. "Try to restrain yourself from writing such insane stories" WTF? How about ignoring them if they really get to you, hmm?

Anonymouse because no LJ whatsoever.

[identity profile] policing.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
You may not be doing it so that people think you are kickass, but it sure as hell is making me think so. ♥

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Edited 2008-02-03 04:01 (UTC)

[identity profile] neuewelt.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
why thank you bb. ♥

[identity profile] downpours.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but that was just mean. /:

(Anonymous) 2008-02-26 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, that's mean.

[identity profile] neuewelt.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, though.

Maybe some of us don't want to talk to you one-on-one? And we are telling you what you're doing wrong, but you give us the same excuse over and over again, and apologize repeatedly.

Autism is not an excuse.
Apologizing isn't going to fix things.
Intelligence isn't the same as common sense.

There's a lot of things that you're doing "wrong" (see [livejournal.com profile] devicing's reply), so I'm not entirely sure what it is that you're not understanding about this whole thing.
And if you're not going to take the time to try, and if you think that you can just apologize and everything will be okay, then I don't see why I'm wasting my time with this.

[identity profile] devicing.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
So crossdressing, OOCness, and all that are somehow not ridiculous? I don't think you can claim that your fanfictions are not ridiculous when they have no point but to put characters in bikinis "just for the lulz." I agree that every writer has a right to post whatever they want, but it's the way you go about it that makes most of us annoyed.

And besides, I think most people aren't as annoyed with what you make, but more with what you do. You make people do requests for you, you steal other's ideas and then pretend that nothing happened, and you have an elitist attitude on the community even though you've been in the fandom for at least 2 months. I don't know why you think you're the "peacemaker" or all that, but really. Fandom is more enjoyable for everyone when we're on equal levels. I know you think you're being all nice when you comment on people's entries claiming to be the peacemaker on the community, but it's when you imply that all of us are just so hard assed and bitchy about our fandom that we get annoyed. We're not going to flip a shit if people post a pairing number's post, but yes, that's something that deserves to be on a personal journal, not a community journal.

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I know what I did wrong and I'm sorry. I don't know what I do wrong until its too late. I regret all the annoying things I said.

But why do you guys have such problems with my fics? Yes, they are ridiculous, but thats just because I chose to write that way. Just because my fics aren't as serious as yours doesn't mean they can be hated. Yes they can be a little annoying, but I'm not the only one who does that. i'm pretty sure there will be more people who'll write crossdressing and stuff. I know I shouldn't have stolen her stuff, but I didn't realize that it was bad because my sister said that her ideas weren't trademarked or had copy rights. So partially it's my sister's fault for encouragin me. And I never meant to think of you guys as hard assed and bitchy, I just was in a bad mood and decided to get stupid on it. i'm just an idiot, ok?

[identity profile] devicing.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, crack fics are nice every once in a while; it's nice to have some lighthearted fics out there in fandom. But really, what point was there to have the characters crossdressing? I don't understand what the need is to have that. There is a good way to incorperate humerous ideas into a fic without messing up the cannon so much that it hurts. Hell, I've read some great humerous fics in the year I've been following fandom, but they always seem to keep the cannon intact at least a little bit.

"Yes they can be a little annoying, but I'm not the only one who does that. i'm pretty sure there will be more people who'll write crossdressing and stuff."
Up until the past few months, the fandom was pretty civilized and friendly, but I do agree, people will come with more of these kinds of fics. Sadly, I knew that day would come sooner or later.
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I? personally have problems with your fics because they're OOC and you don't care that they're OOC. You might as well be writing about original characters wearing Reborn! characters' skins. Because that's what it is. If you'd changed the names, I wouldn't have recognized the characters at all.

Hell, the crossdressing plot? There are a lot of ways it could be done ICly. But you don't try. You bring in this "American Hiruma" girl who forces them, and the way they react isn't even close to how they would react ICly. I got linked to the Xanxus chapter and was wondering who the fuck was this wimp was. That wasn't the Xanxus I'd read about in canon. So how was this even fanfiction in the first place?

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Well the idea of Xanxus crossdressing wasn't even mine...

[identity profile] suntea.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You're really not seeing the point here.
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, the idea wasn't, but the execution of the idea was. My point was, even if the scenario was crack, you could have written his reactions in a perfectly in character manner. Oh, unless his reactions aren't yours either, someone else told you to write them that way?

(Anonymous) 2008-02-03 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not in your fandom, but here's a protip for you. You see this part of the apology? I know I shouldn't have stolen her stuff, but I didn't realize that it was bad because my sister said that her ideas weren't trademarked or had copy rights. So partially it's my sister's fault for encouragin me.

Part of how you make a proper apology is to take responsibility. Say "I'm sorry, I should not have done that" and show that by changing your behavior. Blaming your actions on your sister does nothing.

Similarly, "I was in a bad mood and decided to get stupid" does not count as an excuse. You are responsible for your actions, and for the consequences of your actions, whether or not you are in a bad mood, whether or not you have Asperger's Syndrome. (And I do happen to know functional people both IRL and in fandom who are aspie, and part of why they are so functional is that they've learned to give an honest apology. Learn that skill, it will be very important no matter who you are in life.)

[identity profile] suntea.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
As other people had said--it's not really an issue of you yourself. I'm sure you're a good person, it's just the things you do. Please learn to think before you act. How would you feel if someone offered something you wanted, but only in exchange for something else, when they could easily give it to you for free? It just doesn't seem fair, considering the amount of time that a few members take to scan, write, and draw things for other fans in the community.

As for your fanfics? I myself don't see what fun there is if you don't even try. What's the fun of fanfiction if you don't even try to keep them in character? There's nothing really wrong with what you write, it's the fact that you're not even trying to keep their canon-personalities intact.

And as other people have also said; apologizing is easy, showing that you're sorry is another story. Instead of placing the blame on others, show a little more maturity about what you've done.
Edited 2008-02-03 17:59 (UTC)

[identity profile] yaoitomboy.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Well...I'm trying to get them in character. But usually their personalities tend to lead to angst sometimes and i'm not good at writing angst. I'm currently working on a fanfic for a friend (thats right, everyone take cover D: )But i'm going to try to make them IC this time.