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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-12 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3143 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3143 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
idk why people sort fics by hits. I feel like sorting by kudos, while still not foolproof by any means (a lot of poorly written but super fetish-y stuff tends to rack up kudos for example), is the best way to find good quality fic on AO3. when you sort by hits, you have to consider the fact that a lot of fics have interesting summaries but a lot of people will backbutton out pretty quickly when they realize the fic itself sucks.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I've also accidentally clicked on fics pretty often before.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I go for kudos + single chapter only. Because so many people write like 35 chapters and get a few kudos on each chapter, which skews the results.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
da


I might be misunderstanding your comment, but whether you're logged in or logged out, you can't give kudos for more than one chapter of a fic (I even just went and tested this to make sure that I was remembering it correctly). Not unless you're using different IP addresses at least. Or was your implication that people who post very long chaptered fics over an extended period of time are likely to get more kudos because it's more likely that a larger audience will find the fic since it's being bumped to the top of the fandom's page more often than a fic that's only updated once?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorting by kudos is clearly and absolutely superior to sorting by hits, but both of them have the same basic limitation - they are completely useless if your search is across multiple fandoms.
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[personal profile] cloudtrader 2015-08-12 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Some people inflate your kudos. I wanted to read some Stargate SG-1 stuff awhile back and sorted by kudos and the first story was incredibly mediocre... I looked at the kudos count and it has several thousand "anonymous" kudos, which tells me that the author was inflating the hits to get views.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the Stargate fandoms (can't remember which one, don't want to look it up) has the single most blatant case of this

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
You can't kudo anonymously from the same IP address, so unless the authos is doing something skeevy with proxies, it's got to be something else going on.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I would just like to note that this is the most kudos-ed fic on AO3. Read it. Seriously. (It's short.)

http://archiveofourown.org/works/2080878

In conclusion, how much attention your fic gets is not a reflection of any quality of the fic itself. /shoehornedrelevancy

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Omfg

Thank you for that link.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-08-12 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this so, so much. More every time.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
hahahahahaha
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-08-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I always sort by length then kudos, never by hits.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-08-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hits mean nothing. They just mean someone clicked on a story. It could have been linked on someone's tumblr or just happened to be posted at the best time possible.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Or the story has the right keywords to attract bots that may even spam with comments.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, AO3 has a lot of weird stuff like that.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-08-12 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I have EVER sorted fic by hits. Usually I go by comments or bookmarks or kudos, but I don't bother with hits. Like first anon mentioned, you can click on a fic and realize three sentences in that it's not what you want, but you've still given that fic a hit. I don't see the point of searching that way...it doesn't say much about quality.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I refuse to believe anyone actually buys hits for a fanfic. It would be so pathetic.

Much rather believe that they're getting recced on a forum or something, where you can't see it.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
But if they're getting that many recs from a forum, then on pure statistics alone I'd think there would have been at least SOME kudos/comments. (Literally - 3 kudos and no comments, but 10K hits? that just seems hinky to me.)

BTW<I only sorted on hits because I was curious; I do usually sift by kudos or comments.

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I've never sorted by hits and I've read on AO3 since it started.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've sorted by date, by kudos, by length. Hits only tell you how many people have checked something out - maybe it has an intriguing summary, or a popular author, or a sought-out tag/kink, or it could be recced (or slammed) somewhere you haven't found, or it could have inspired another story or art, or there could be some sort issue with it that went viral. There are lots of reasons people might take a glance.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I have a shitty Doogie Howser fic that eclipses everything else Ive written in hit counts. Sometimes bots, glitches and attacks happen, and they're far more likely than somebody buying hits for a fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I always sort by bookmarks (on AO3)/favorites (FFN) because people who tend to bookmark/favorite a fic love it enough to have a quick and easy way to get back to it.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
What does it mean to 'buy hits'?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It is possible to buy a service to increase traffic to a URL. Most of the people who do this do it so that their webpage displays nearer the top of google search results (which is guess is sorted by how many hits the page has received.)