[ SECRET POST #3143 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3143 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

idk why people sort fics by hits. I feel like sorting by kudos, while still not foolproof by any means (a lot of poorly written but super fetish-y stuff tends to rack up kudos for example), is the best way to find good quality fic on AO3. when you sort by hits, you have to consider the fact that a lot of fics have interesting summaries but a lot of people will backbutton out pretty quickly when they realize the fic itself sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I've also accidentally clicked on fics pretty often before.

[(Anonymous)]

I go for kudos + single chapter only. Because so many people write like 35 chapters and get a few kudos on each chapter, which skews the results.

[(Anonymous)]

da


I might be misunderstanding your comment, but whether you're logged in or logged out, you can't give kudos for more than one chapter of a fic (I even just went and tested this to make sure that I was remembering it correctly). Not unless you're using different IP addresses at least. Or was your implication that people who post very long chaptered fics over an extended period of time are likely to get more kudos because it's more likely that a larger audience will find the fic since it's being bumped to the top of the fandom's page more often than a fic that's only updated once?

[(Anonymous)]

you can COMMENT more than once, but not kudo.

[(Anonymous)]

I think they just said that you can't kudos more than once...?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Huh. I didn't realize that the same person couldn't give kudos on more than one chapter. But at any rate, yes, I would say the situation described in your final sentence still skews the results favorably toward chaptered fics.

[ketita]

Not sure I'd really say it actually skews the kudos. I mean there are plenty of people who will refuse to read a wip, and plenty of people for whom it takes time to get into a story. A multichapter will normally take longer to get off the ground, because in the early stages fewer people usually click.

[(Anonymous)]

But doesn't that mean you're assuming that chaptered fics will always be of lesser quality based on nothing more than them being more likely to have more kudos than a one-shot?

[(Anonymous)]

Sorting by kudos is clearly and absolutely superior to sorting by hits, but both of them have the same basic limitation - they are completely useless if your search is across multiple fandoms.

[cloudtrader]

Some people inflate your kudos. I wanted to read some Stargate SG-1 stuff awhile back and sorted by kudos and the first story was incredibly mediocre... I looked at the kudos count and it has several thousand "anonymous" kudos, which tells me that the author was inflating the hits to get views.

[(Anonymous)]

One of the Stargate fandoms (can't remember which one, don't want to look it up) has the single most blatant case of this

[cloudtrader]

Actually, I just looked this up, and it was Stargate Atlantis, but someone from the AO3 posted about it being a glitch due to a bot attack, not kudos inflation.

Still, I do think people do this.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's the one that I was thinking of as well.

It's still really funny - I don't remember the exact numbers, but there's a fairly small number of fics that are stratospheric in terms of hits and kudos, and most of them are, like, Sterek kidfic and shit like that, and then you have this one random SGA fic. It's great.

[(Anonymous)]

You can't kudo anonymously from the same IP address, so unless the authos is doing something skeevy with proxies, it's got to be something else going on.

[(Anonymous)]

My home IP is not fixed - I just reboot the router - is that not common?

[(Anonymous)]

On mine, if I want to change my IP, I have to leave everything unplugged for 24 hours. And while I have no desire to cheat on counters anyway, I'd certainly have no desire to do at the expense of a day's worth of Internet.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Wow, right, yeah. I never considered this question before, but my ISP sure does make it easy to play the system. Makes it easier to read "limited view" Google Books. Never tried to fake hits, I wonder if there's a limited pool of IPs or a limit on changes in a day.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I have been able to give more than one kudos anonymously on the same work on my laptop by switching wifi networks, and I noticed that if I gave a kudos anonymously on my laptop, our home computer (using the same internet connection) said I had already given kudos, even though I had never even looked at the fic on that computer before, and had forgotten that I had given kudos on the other computer altogether until the message showed up.

Not sure how that exactly ties in to IP addresses, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Your IP identifies your connection, not your individual machine. Switching wifi networks gives you a different IP because you're using a different connection. Switching machines on a home network doesn't.

[(Anonymous)]

The majority of my kudos are anonymous, and I'm pretty sure no one's inflating them - I'm just not that popular!

I wish they were signed-in kudos, though. Partly because I'd really love to know who in the world is reading my old fics (I haven't a clue)... but mostly because I'm worried people will think they're fake :-(