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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-12 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3143 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3143 ⌋

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Re: fandom drama

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Writing black characters in a story is wrong if you're white. Apparently. I have for the longest time made it a point to include OCs of color because my fandoms are predominantly white, but all this time I've just been an insensitive asshole. So to make everyone happy there shouldn't be ANY black characters in my fic, oh wait...

Re: fandom drama

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Damned if you do, damned if you don't with the whiney SJWs.

Re: fandom drama

(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The obvious choice is to give up writing and just have POC do all of the writing. You're not allowed anymore. Sorry. Don't cook either, POC invented that

Re: fandom drama

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I actually legit saw someone say something like that once (I think it might have been on ontd_p), about how we have too many books by white male authors and that basically all white guys who want to be authors should step back and let the women/POC have a turn.

Re: fandom drama

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
They're not wrong, but it'll never work like that. people want to be what they want to be, saying "you people should stop" will never ever work, we need to change things are the very root, we need to deincentivize them from wanting to be writers in the first place.

The only way I can think to do this would be to stop promoting the existing books by white male writers so heavily, less promotion, less sales, less valid avenue for money making, less white male writers. On the flip side more promotion for POC women means more sales, more money and more POC women seeing the career as a valid opportunity and starting writing. Ideally this would happen within the industry itself, but they will never start something like that, there's far too much money in backing the white male element, which is why we need to be the one's to start doing this. We need to promote more POC women and less white male creators.

This is what I have always held true, and this is what I've always taken away from this discussion, so is it possible this is what the person you're talking about was trying to say? not that white men need to stop, but we need to stop the encouragement of white men and start heavily encouraging POC women?