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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-13 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #3144 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3144 ⌋

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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-08-13 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way about The Bechdel Test. It's not meant to be a checklist that measures whether or not a film is feminist or not. Any time there's some point made about a trend across a lot of media, people immediately want to turn it into a litmus test where it makes each individual movie or show good or bad, pulling it away from the original point of looking at media as a whole to instead get caught up in arguments about whether one individual case is justified or not.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Some of the best feminist films and literature don't pass the Bechdel Test. However, I think the Bechdel Test and the Sexy Lamp test are great for pointing out how shit a shitty movie is to people who don't get it.

[personal profile] thezmage 2015-08-13 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Sir Mix-A-Lot's song "Baby Got Back" passes the Bechdel test. It opens with two girls talking about butts.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Such a beautiful comment.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
* Another girl's butt.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, that's a good point...

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
that song is a work of beauty and a gift to all mankind. this proves the bechdel test truly works.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
But they aren't named characters?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Becky has a name. Idk about the woman asking Becky to look at that girl's butt. I don't think she has a name.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Some versions of the Bechdel Test require the female characters to have names.* I don't think that's a requirement in the very original, though.

*The reason being that the characters need to be important enough to be named, so like, a background conversation between two random women the main characters are sitting behind in a restaurant or something wouldn't count. But that seems to be trying to scrape past the "bare minimum" requirement, and besides, there are some things where really important characters don't have names.

[personal profile] thezmage 2015-08-14 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
In the original, there's no mention of names being required.

And you certainly can't argue that Becky and the girl talking are unimportant.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-08-13 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. And, technically, within the confines of the Bechdel test, you could still write women in a terribly sexist way (bu not have them talk about men).