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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-13 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #3144 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3144 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Kirk actually isn't that bad for the time (look at him relative to, say, James West from WWW or even Napoleon Solo to an extent). The sexism is definitely there, but Kirk is usually pretty respectful, if a touch patriarchal, towards women. He actually doesn't pursue them that often (usually they're pursuing him, and most often as a ploy rather than genuine intent), and he has advocated to other characters several times to treat people right ("Be gentle. It's not a one-way street, you know. How you feel and that's all. It's how the girl feels, too." - Kirk to Charlie X). It's not just talk, either. Take something like "Mirror Mirror" and how he treated Mirror!Marlena - he actually was respectful of her, despite having to play the role of her lover Mirror!Kirk.

TOS Kirk really isn't the womaniser he's portrayed to be, I think. He definitely likes women, and he has a tendency to end up in romantic subplots. There is a definite element of 60s sexism in how he's written. But the man himself isn't really more than mildly patriarchal and protective towards women, and willing to accept physical pleasure if it looks to be coming his way (barring that it's detrimental to the mission). He doesn't demean women (well, talks down to them a bit when they're scared sometimes), doesn't have any problems with women doing their jobs around him, doesn't expect them to drop everything for him. For the time the part was written in, he sure as hell could have been a lot worse.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
IA. I thought it was pretty bad too, but then I started watching Man from UNCLE and wow, the sexism in that (and the racism!). These days it would be considered over the top for a parody.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
+1