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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-13 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #3144 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3144 ⌋

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[Grace Kelly, Judy Garland]


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[Soragumi, Shizuki Asato]












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I think there were a lot of reasons she didn't win.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
But most of them didn't have much to do with her performance. And this kind of thing happens with some regularity at the Academy Awards - How Green Was My Valley over Citizen Kane and The Maltese Falcon (1941); Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan (1998); Crash over Brokeback Mountain (2005) [Haggis (the director of Crash) said it shouldn't have won best picture], Paul Lukas over Humphrey Bogart; Gary Cooper over Orson Welles (1941); Rod Steiger over Warren Beatty, Dustin Hoffman, Paul Newman, and Spencer Tracy (1967); Cliff Robertson over Peter O’Toole (1968); Roberto Benigni over Tom Hanks and Ian McKellan (1998), Gwyneth Paltrow over Cate Blanchett (1998); Ginger Rogers over Joan Fontaine and Katharine Hepburn (1940); Geraldine Page over Meryl Streep (1985); Cher over Holly Hunter (1987); Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn (2000).

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Re: I think there were a lot of reasons she didn't win.

[personal profile] a_potato 2015-08-14 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's all politics, man.

Re: I think there were a lot of reasons she didn't win.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I guess I'm the party-pooper here. I like How Green Was My Valley better; I preferred Shakespeare in Love to Saving Private Ryan (although, to be fair, I'd have put The Thin Red Line above both films - it was sadly ignored).

I didn't see Brokeback Mountain, but I feel that Crash won because the Academy was thinking that maybe Magnolia (from a few years earlier) should have won. Just like Chicago won, because Moulin Rouge didn't win the year before.

Anyway, it seems like there's always multiple opinions on who should have won and who didn't; sometimes, it's a lifetime achievement award, and sometimes it's based on the performance.

A crime, though, that Peter O'Toole never won an Oscar, not counting the special make-it-up-to-you Oscar.

Oh, but I do absolutely agree with OP that Judy Garland should have won for A Star is Born.

Re: I think there were a lot of reasons she didn't win.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
Looking at that list, unpopular opinion I know I still think Shakespeare in Love is better than Saving Private Ryan.
I find SPR has a brilliant opening 30 mins then just trails off. Lots of interchangeable characters wandering around having very fake sounding conversations and they don't sound/look/act like soldiers to me. Band of Brothers fixed all these problems and always feels to me like Private Ryan done properly.

Re: I think there were a lot of reasons she didn't win.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
which is exactly why I won't watch awards shows. Somebody always wins who didn't fucking deserve it. The Emmies are even worse about this than the Oscars, and don't even get me started on the Grammies.